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NEW HANOVER COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
SPECIAL MEETING WITH WILMINGTON CITY COUNCIL
FOR DISCUSSION OF CONSOLIDATION, MAY 10,2000
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ASSEMBLY
The New Hanover County Board of Commissioners held a special meeting with the
Wilmington City Council to discuss consolidation on Wednesday, May 10, 2000, at 6:00 p.m. in the
City Council Chambers, 102 North Third Street, Wilmington, North Carolina.
Board Members present were: Chairman William A. Caster, presiding; Vice-Chairman Robert
G. Greer; Commissioner Buzz Birzenieks; Commissioner Ted Davis, Jr; Commissioner Charles R.
Howell; and County Manager, Allen O'Neal; County Attorney, Wanda M. Copley; and Clerk to the
Board, Lucie F. Harrell.
Council Members present were: Mayor David L. Jones, presiding; and Councilmembers Frank
Conlon; 1. C. Hearne, II; Laura Padgett; and Sandra Spaulding-Hughes; and City Manager, Mary M.
Gornto; City Attorney, Thomas C. Pollard; and City Clerk, Penelope Spicer-Sidbury.
Council Members absent were: Mayor Pro- Tem Katherine B. Moore and Councilmember
Charles H. Rivernbark, Jr.
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER
Mayor Jones and Chairman Caster called their respective Boards to order.
Deputy County Manager, Andrew 1. Atkinson, gave the invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was led by County Manager Allen 0 'Neal.
WELCOME
Mayor Jones welcomed everyone to the Council Chambers and expressed appreciation to the
facilitator, Dr. Becky Porterfield. He spoke on looking forward to having a productive meeting and
he emphasized the importance of the governing boards looking into the possibility of merging
departments without waiting for consolidation.
Chairman Caster welcomed everyone present and stated that the County Commissioners were
also eager to move forward with consideration of consolidation as well as functional consolidation.
I. OPENING REMARKS
Dr. Porterfield presented a packet of notes from the March 15, 2000 meeting reflecting what
both governing bodies agreed upon by motion and vote, which was the concept of using an undefined
outside agency to conduct a study of the feasibility of consolidation. She briefly reiterated her role
as a facilitator and stated that her purpose was to keep the meeting moving forward.
Mayor Jones announced that Mayor Pro- T em Moore had an emergency in her family and was
out of state and that Councilmember Rivenbark had advised Councilmember Hearne that he had to go
out of town.
II APPROVAL OF PURPOSE, SCOPE AND EXPECTATIONS OF THE FEASIBILITY
STUDY
Dr. Porterfield reviewed the purpose, scope and expectations of the feasibility study with the
two governing boards. She requested both boards to discuss each portion of the statement.
A. Purpose
Councilmember Conlon suggested adding the word "selected" before City and County
functions to be more specific about city/county department mergers. He also suggested
assessing the option of no change in the existing governments as part of the purpose.
Motion: After discussion, Mayor Jones MOVED, SECONDED by Councilmember Conlon,
to accept the purpose as amended. Upon vote, the MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Chairman Caster called for a motion from the Board of County Commissioners to accept the
purpose as amended.
Motion: Commissioner Birzenieks MOVED, SECONDED by Vice-Chairman Greer, to accept
the purpose as amended. Upon vote, the MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Amended Purpose:
(1) To assess the overall desirability or feasibility ofthe governmental consolidation
of New Hanover County and the City of Wilmington.
(2) To assess the overall desirability or feasibility of the selected merger(s) of city and
county functions.
(3) To assess the option of no change in the governmental structure of the city and
county.
B. Scope of the Project
Dr. Porterfield reviewed the proposed scope as follows:
(1) Provide recommendation(s) to consolidate the city and county governments, or
to merge certain city and county functions, or to make no change in the
governmental structures of the city and the county.
(2) Should consolidation or functional mergers be desirable and feasible, provide an
implementation plan, including a conceptual framework of the merged entity's
governmental, financial and organizational structure.
After discussion by both governing bodies, the following action was taken:
Motion: Councilmember Conlon, MOVED, SECONDED by Councilmember Hearne, to
approve the scope as presented. Upon vote, the MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Motion: Vice-Chairman Greer MOVED, SECONDED by Commissioner Birzenieks, to
accept the Scope as presented. Upon vote, the MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
C. Tasks
Dr. Porterfield requested the two governing boards to review the following task list:
(1) Review relevant studies (e.g.) previous consolidation plans, reports (budgets and
annual financial reports), and relevant strategic plans.
(2) Interview key governmental officials and staff, and identify services most affected by
consolidation or functional mergers.
(3) Develop a profile of the affected government agencies, including revenues,
expenditures, staffing levels and other key characteristics.
(4) Conduct a literature scan of other city-county consolidations and functional mergers.
(5) Identify consolidation or merger benefits, costs, risks, and opportunities.
(6) Identify factors, which could facilitate or impair consolidation or functional mergers
(e.g., salary and benefit structures), potential implementation barriers and any other
opportunities, threats and issues requiring analysis or consideration.
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(7) Develop a communications strategy to keep the elected boards and thereby citizens
informed.
(8) Present interim and final reports to the elected boards.
Discussion of Task #4:
With regard to the literature scan, Councilmember Hughes suggested recording dates on the
literature from day one during the research period to know the time span so a strategic plan
could be drawn.
Commissioner Birzenieks suggested vlsltmg successful and unsuccessful consolidated
governments or mergers with interviews so information will be available on what went right
or wrong with the process.
Both governing bodies agreed to the amendments suggested by Councilmember Hughes and
Commissioner Birzenieks to read as follows:
Amended Task #4:
Conduct interviews, visits, and a literature scan of other city-county consolidations and
functional mergers that shall include an historical analysis as to the success or failure of
such consolidations or mergers.
Discussion of Task #5
Councilmember Conlon requested Task #5 to be amended to include the "no change" option
to read as follows:
Amended Task #5:
Identify consolidation, merger, and no change benefits, costs, risks, and opportunities.
Discussion of Task #7:
A lengthy discussion was held on how to keep the citizens informed and how to develop a
communications strategy that will not prematurely influence public opinion. Suggestions were
made to conduct public forums, provide periodic updates, call press conferences, televise
meetings, and send letters in tax bills and/or water bills.
Councilmember Conlon expressed concern about the following items: (1) public hearings not
reaching all the citizenry; and (2) prevailing on the media the need to publish recommendations
and statements of the study group instead of the reporter's interpretation of what occurred at
a meeting.
Both governing bodies agreed that public hearings should be conducted to receive citizenry
input.
Vice-Chairman Greer asked what information would be given to the public. Mayor Jones
responded that once both governing bodies formulate the study team and its tasks, the people
need to be made aware of the progress being made by the group.
A lengthy discussion followed. Dr. Porterfield advised that a list of tasks is what the two
governing boards will request from the group selected to conduct the feasibility study. The
first item should be to request the group to develop a communications strategy that will
incorporate periodic updates through the media and public forums. This strategy can be
evaluated by both governing bodies.
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After further discussion, both governing bodies agreed that the study team appointed would
have the expertise to develop a communications strategy that will keep the public informed and
at the same time be sensitive about prematurely influencing public opinion.
Dr. Porterfield recapped the agreed upon issues for Task #7 as follows:
Task #7
Develop a communications strategy to keep the elected boards, and thereby the citizens,
informed. This should include the conduction of public forums and periodic updates to
the public via such means as press conferences, televised meetings, letters in tax bills
and/or water bills and should include city and county boards and commissions, civic and
religious organizations. Communications should be developed with a sensitivity that
does not prematurely influence public opinion.
Both governing boards agreed that Task #7 as recapped by Dr. Porterfield addressed their
concerns.
Motion: Mayor Jones MOVED, SECONDED by Councilmember Conlon, to approve the
scope and tasks as revised. Upon vote, the MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Motion: Vice-Chairman Greer MOVED, SECONDED by Commissioner Birzenieks to
approve the scope and task as revised. Upon vote, the MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Discussion of Task #8:
Vice-Chairman Greer asked what process will be used to approve the report when the final
report is presented to the elected boards. He asked whether the two governing bodies will
vote to approve or disapprove the plan, whether a majority vote will rule, or whether each
individual item will require a vote. He advised that from past experience, it had not been
possible for everyone to agree on every item; therefore, he would suggest that the majority rule
to avoid one issue defeating the plan.
Mayor Jones responded that work sessions will have to be scheduled as the various phases of
the plan are completed.
Discussion was held on the appointment of a Charter Commission. City Attorney Tom Pollard
explained that a Charter Commission would have to be appointed to develop the structure of
the government. The purpose of the study is to determine if it is feasible to consolidate or
consider the other alternatives.
A lengthy discussion was held on the process to be used by the governing bodies when the
recommendation is received from the study group. Numerous suggestions were made, and Dr.
Porterfield recapped the discussion as follows:
(1) Conduct city and county meetings after the recommendation comes from the study
group.
(2) Conduct city and county meetings to gather information and feed back.
(3) Conduct Work Sessions between the Board of County Commissioners and City
Council to attempt to reach resolution.
(4) If the recommendation is to consolidate, a Charter Commission would be appointed
to study the structure of the government. The governing bodies would vote separately
on the structure and if approved, the charter would be placed before the voters.
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(5) If the recommendation is to merge departments, interlocal agreements would be
negotiated between the city and county with no vote by the citizens. If the
recommendation is no change in the existing structures, nothing would be done.
Both governing bodies agreed with the recap presented by Dr. Porterfield.
Discussion was held on the benefits of including the beach communities in the consolidation
process. There was a consensus between both governing bodies to ask the beach communities to
participate in the consolidation discussion.
Mayor Jones requested the City Manager and County Manager to draft a letter to the beach
municipalities to see if they are interested in participating in the consolidation study.
Additional discussion was followed on Item 1 under the Scope. Commissioner Davis
recommended placing the word "non-binding" before recommendation in order to avoid criticism if
the two governing bodies do not follow the exact recommendation presented from the study group.
Both governing boards agreed to amend the Scope to include the word, non-binding before
recommendation.
III. REPORT ON THE INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE AND
CONSIDERATION OF OTHER OPTIONS FOR THE CONDUCTION OF A
FEASIBILITY STUDY
City Manager Mary Gornto reported at the last meeting, she and County Manager O'Neal
were requested to contact the Institute of Government to see if this organization would be interested
in undertaking the study. Contact was made with Mr. Michael Smith, Director of the Institute of
Government, who indicated interest and requested time to discuss the request with the faculty. A few
days later, Mr. Smith called and stated that Mr. Kurt Jenne, a member of the faculty for a number of
years, was interested in undertaking the study. It was decided that once the purpose, scope, and tasks
were approved by both governing bodies, the information would be faxed to Mr. Jenne.
City Manager Gornto also reported that she and County Manager O'Neal had contacted the
North Carolina Association of County Commissioners and North Carolina League of Municipalities
to see if these organizations would be interested in conducting the study. The League has undertaken
similar studies for merging two towns, but not a city and county. The League also noted that if staff
was available, they would only be interested in conducting the study jointly with the N. C. Association
of County Commissioners.
County Manager O'Neal noted that he had received the same response from the N. C.
Association of County Commissioners.
City Manager Gornto advised that other contacts had been made as follows:
(1) Mr. Dan Durning, University of Georgia and Institute of Government in Athens, Georgia, was
contacted. He served as one of the panelists at the UNCW Forum for discussion of
consolidating local governments. He is interested and has participated in similar projects in
Georgia between counties and cities. Fundamentally, local governments are organized
differently in Georgia from those in North Carolina; however, he could serve as a valuable
resource.
(2) Mr. Tom Barth, UNCW Political Science Department, and Director of the MPA Program,
indicated that Dr. Milan DeLewey, who will arrive in July as the UNCW Chair of the Political
Science Department, has an interest in the project. Dr. DeLewey has participated in similar
efforts around the country, but primarily in Florida. Local governments in Florida are
organized differently from those in North Carolina.
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(3) Mr. Bill Carstarfen, was a panelist at the UNCW Forum, and a former City Manager of
Greensboro, who is currently in private consulting work. His time is filled and his company
lacks the necessary resources to undertake a large project. He indicated an interest in
supporting the effort through analysis or research work that might need to be done.
In summary, City Manager Gornto said the Institute of Government in Chapel Hill has the
expertise to conduct the study and is willing to assume this responsibility.
In response to questions regarding the cost of the study by the Institute of Government, City
Manager Gornto explained that without having an opportunity to see the scope of work in order to
have a clear understanding of the study, she did not discuss the cost with the Institute of Government.
However, the Institute does have another faculty person staffing the City of Durham and Durham
County consolidation effort. Based on this consolidation effort, which involves a number of citizen
committees and is more intensive in terms of time being spent in Durham versus the analytical study
being requested by the City Council and Board of County Commissioners, the cost should be less than
$50,000. The Institute would not want to be held to this figure until more information has been
received on the purpose, scope, and tasks of the study.
Mayor Jones stated that since the Institute of Government is a taxpayer supported
organization, the cost of service would be minimal compared to outside consulting firms. The Institute
is a professional organization that would provide an unbiased opinion with no pressure from the
outside; therefore, he would support the Institute of Government.
Councilmember Conlon agreed and stated that he felt the Institute of Government would be
the best choice because this organization is familiar with North Carolina and its local governments.
Chairman Caster asked if the Commissioners had any comments.
Discussion followed on clearly defining how the study would be approached. Commissioner
Birzenieks and Chairman Caster stated they understood that a citizens group would be formed and the
person from the Institute of Government would serve as the facilitator.
Dr. Porterfield responded that Mr. Jenne would do the analysis.
Mayor Jones stated that both governing bodies agreed at the last meeting that a single group
or person was needed to study the feasibility of consolidation. However, the process would involve
input from citizens.
Vice-Chairman Greer stressed the importance of everyone understanding that the Institute of
Government will conduct the study and provide facts on the feasibility of consolidating the local
governments, but the Institute will not say whether the two governments should or should not be
consolidated. This decision will have to be made by the City Council, the Board of County
Commissioners, and ultimately by the voters.
IV. AGREEMENT ON NEXT STEPS
County Manager O'Neal explained that the Institute of Government would perform the role
of analysis, research and education. The Institute is comprised of a faculty of experts in specialized
areas of education, which serves as an advisory role to local governments. This advisory role is limited
and it will provide only opinions on what is appropriate and legally feasible. He stated that, in his
opinion, the next step would be to refine the information discussed tonight and forward it to Mr.
Michael Smith, Director of the Institute of Government and Mr. Kurt Jenne for an evaluation and
response.
Councilmember Padgett referenced Task #7 and asked if it was the desire of both governing
bodies to have the Institute of Government conduct public hearings as part of the information
gathering, or to have the governing bodies conduct public hearings after the report has been developed
in order to get reactions from the citizens.
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Following further discussion, Dr. Porterfield clarified Task #7 as follows: "Develop a
communication strategy to keep the elected boards, and thereby the citizens informed. This should
include the conduction of public forums and periodic updates to the public via such means as press
conferences, televised meetings, letters in tax bills and/or water bills, and should include city and
county boards and commissions, civic and religious organizations. Communications should be
developed with a sensitivity that does not prematurely influence public opinion."
A lengthy discussion followed on the appointment of a citizens committee and holding public
hearings. It was concluded that if the Institute of Government is selected to undertake the study, they
have the expertise to develop a communications strategy to keep the elected boards and citizens
informed. This information will be assimilated in the report presented to the City Council and Board
of County Commissioners. It was also agreed that the Institute of Government should not be told how
to perform their job.
Motion: Following further consideration, Mayor Jones MOVED, SECONDED by Councilmember
Conlon, to approve the purpose, scope, and expectations of a feasibility study of consolidation and/or
functional mergers. Upon vote the MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSL Y.
Motion: Commissioner Davis MOVED, SECONDED by Commissioner Birzenieks to approve the
purpose, scope, and expectations of a feasibility study of consolidation and/or functional mergers.
Upon vote, the MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
The two governing bodies took a brief recess.
The meeting was reconvened.
Dr. Porterfield inquired as to how the two governing boards would like for the results of the
report of the Institute of Government to be presented to them.
After a lengthy discussion, it was suggested that the report should be presented to the City
Council and Board of County Commissioners jointly, and each governing body should review and
study the report to form their own opinions.
Motion: Following further discussion, Councilmember Conlon MOVED, SECONDED by
Councilmember Hearne, to follow the suggested process as outlined by Dr. Porterfield. Upon vote,
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Motion: Vice-Chairman Greer MOVED, SECONDED by Commissioner Birzenieks, to follow the
suggested process as outlined by Dr. Porterfield. Upon vote, THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Discussion followed on how the expenses would be handled. Mayor Jones suggested that both
governing bodies split the cost involved with the consolidation process.
Vice-Chairman Greer agreed but pointed out that the County Commissioners are ready to
commit to a plan that will move forward with consolidating the two governments.
Motion: After further consideration, Mayor Jones MOVED, SECONDED by Councilmember Conlon,
to split any expenses incurred during the consolidation process between both governing bodies. Upon
vote, the MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSL Y.
Motion: Commissioner Birzenieks, MOVED, SECONDED by Vice-Chairman Greer, that any
expenses incurred be split 50/50 by the governing boards. Upon vote, the MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Dr. Porterfield thanked everyone for their time.
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V. ADDITIONAL ITEMS
Discussion of Scheduling the Next Meeting
After discussion of when to schedule the next meeting, the managers were requested to meet
and obtain the information from the Institute of Government and to invite Mr. Michael Smith and Mr.
Jenne to attend the meeting and present their proposal to the governing boards.
Councilmember Hearne requested that Dr. Porterfield's final summary on the discussion
tonight be sent to both governing boards so it can be reviewed prior to scheduling another meeting.
Mayor Jones suggested that the two clerks work with the two managers and formulate the
report with a copy provided to everyone and made available to the media.
County Manager O'Neal suggested that the two public information officers establish a web site
for agendas for the meetings and for minutes once they are approved.
Both governing boards concurred with the recommendations made by Mayor Jones and
County Manager 0 'Neal.
Mayor Jones thanked Dr. Porterfield for the excellent manner in which she had facilitated the
meeting.
Discussion of Renaming Legion Stadium
Mayor Jones reported that the City and County have undertaken a project to re-name Legion
Stadium to the Legion Stadium Sports Complex because this is a facility that will become a showplace
in Wilmington. The Legion Stadium Committee and others have been in the process of developing
a Master Plan for this complex. One integral part of the plan is to include the National Guard Armory
building as part of the complex. Mayor Jones advised that discussions and meetings have been held
with local legislators, Congressman McIntyre, General Rudisill and others about state and federal
funding for relocation of the National Guard operation to North Kerr Avenue. If funding can be
secured, the Armory building will be vacant and can become a part of the complex.
Mayor Jones presented a joint resolution of support for the acquisition of the National Guard
Armory building and stated that the City Council will address this issue on Tuesday, May 16, 2000.
He also expressed appreciation to Chairman Caster for his involvement in helping to develop the
Master Plan for the complex.
Chairman Caster advised that the resolution would be considered by the Board of County
Commissioners on May 22,2000.
Status Report on Monkey Junction Intersection Improvements
Councilmember Padgett reported that the Long Range Transportation Plan for 2025 calls for
an elevated overpass at the Monkey Junction intersection. Improvements for this intersection will not
be a priority project on the Transportation Improvement Plan until funding is available, which will be
in 15 to 20 years. With the number oflarge developments being planned for the Monkey Junction area,
she had appeared before the Board of County Commissioners to request the Board to continue the B-2
Highway Business and Conditional Use zoning of56.45 acres north of Monkey Junction for 30 days
to see if the developer would participate in funding of the intersection improvements.
While the County cannot build roads in the unincorporated county, the City and County could
enter into an interlocal agreement that will allow the City to build the road. Cost estimates are being
studied and the Department of Transportation is looking into the possibility of securing funding from
the developers of the property. There are three types of intersections that could be built at Monkey
Junction:
1. The Standard Cloverleaf, which requires a large amount of space.
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2. An urban diamond, which is simpler, but because of the support needed for the ramps,
would probably be more expensive.
3. A new type of intersection called a Center Turn Lane Overpass. This is a web-site
design that does not take more additional road space and is much cheaper to build.
In closing, Councilmember Padgett said this was an opportunity that should not be missed
because improvement of this intersection will greatly improve the traffic flow in this area.
Mayor Jones expressed appreciation to Councilmember Padgett for her effort in trying to
expedite this project.
Councilmember Padgett gave credit to the Traffic Planning staff, John Ponder and Bill Austin,
for bringing this matter to her attention.
Mayor Jones reminded everyone of the legislative breakfast meeting to be held on Monday,
May 22,2000, at 7:30 a.m. in Council Chambers.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the respective boards adjourned the meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
Lucie F. Harrell
Clerk to the Board