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NEW HANOVER COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WORK SESSION WITH FIRE COMMISSION, JULY 17, 1995
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ASSEMBLY
The New Hanover County Board of Commissioners held a Work
Session on Monday, July 17, 1995, at 6:30 P.M. in the Assembly Room
of the New Hanover County Courthouse, 24 North Third Street,
Wilmington, North Carolina.
Members present were: Commissioners Sandra Barone; WilliamA.
Caster; William E. Sisson, Jr.; vice-Chairman E. L. Mathews, Jr.;
Chairman Robert G. Greer; County Manager, Allen 0' Neal; County
Attorney, Wanda M. Copley; and Clerk to the Board, Lucie F.
Harrell.
Chairman Greer called the meeting to order and welcomed
everyone present. He announced the purpose of the meeting was to
meet with the Fire Commission and members of the Volunteer Fire
Departments to discuss issues of concern.
Discussion was held on revisions to the contract with the
Volunteer Fire Departments made by the Board at its regular meeting
that morning. Commissioner Sisson reported the following changes
were made to the contract:
(1) The word may was changed to shall and mutual aid pacts was
changed to aid pacts in the following paragraph on Page 2 of
the original contract to read as follows:
The contractor is responsible for that portion of the
County located within its primary area of coverage as
specified in the attached Exhibit "A"; however, the
Contractor shall render services outside its area to the
extent feasible and consistent wi th protection wi thin its
own area, in conjunction with existing Volunteer Fire
Department aid pacts, or as otherwise directed by the
Fire Commissioners or the Board of County Commissioners.
Further discussion was held on the revisions to the contract.
Mr. Mike Rhodes, Chief of the Wrightsboro Volunteer Fire
Department, advised the Board that the contract revisions were not
necessary because they did not change anything in the original
contract. He reported when the Wrightsboro Volunteer Fire
Department refused to continue to provide service to the North
Wilmington area because they had not received additional funds to
cover the costs, the Fire Commission recommended changing the
contract as a threat to the department. He expressed concern for
the Board of Fire Commissioners and the Board of County
Commissioners becoming too involved with the day-to-day operation
of the Volunteer Fire Departments.
Commissioner Barone commented on hearing concerns from
Volunteer Firemen about the possible loss of life insurance, and
she requested an explanation from Mr. Rhodes.
Mr. Rhodes reported the N. C. Department of Insurance has
expressed concern about the mutual aid agreement because the North
Wilmington Volunteer Fire Station has been abolished in District 5,
and the Wrightsboro Volunteer Fire Department does not have a
contract with the County to cover District 5, which is outside its
district. Crossing from one district into another without a
contract has created a question about life insurance.
Commissioner Barone expressed concern for the many complaints
received from the Wrightsboro Volunteer Fire Department, and she
recommended establishing one fire department with satellite
stations, which, in her opinion, would promote better communication
among all departments and hopefully resolve many of the conflict
areas.
Mr. Rhodes responded the present system was working well, and
he did not feel it would be necessary to establish one department.
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As to the complaints being received from the Wrightsboro Volunteer
Fire Department, the problem has been refusal by the Fire
Commission to reimburse the department for costs involved with
providing fire service to the North Wilmington area. When the
Wrightsboro Volunteer Fire Department assumes this responsibility,
the department was told by the Fire Commission that additional
funds would be appropriated; however, two years later, no funds
have been received.
Discussion was held on why the Wrightsboro Volunteer Fire
Department had not been reimbursed for the cost of providing fire
service to the North Wilmington area. Mr. Dennis Pinho, Chairman
of the Fire Commission, advised that additional funds would have
been approved by the Fire Commission if the funding request had
been properly submitted with ample justification of the funds
expended. He pointed out that a major function of the Fire
Commission was to review budget requests from all Volunteer Fire
Departments and present the recommended budgets for each department
to the Board of County Commissioners. Also, the Fire Commission
was responsible for monitoring the budgets throughout each fiscal
year to ensure that additional funding requests are necessary and
properly documented. In this case, if the funding request has been
submitted properly, the Wrightsboro Volunteer Fire Department would
have received additional funds.
Mr. Rhodes responded it was almost impossible to estimate an
exact figure for providing fire coverage to the North Wilmington
area; therefore, he increased the budget request for the current
fiscal year by 10%, which was rejected by the Fire Commission when
reviewing budgets for the Volunteer Fire Departments.
Mr. Dominic Bianco, Chief of the Castle Hayne Volunteer Fire
Department, commented on the budget process being extremely fair
for the current fiscal year and reported if the Wrightsboro
Volunteer Fire Department had submitted the funding request with
proper justification for reimbursement of fire coverage to the
North Wilmington area, the Fire Commission would have approved the
request. Budget requests for the Volunteer Fire Departments were
reviewed line item by line item and many comparisons were made by
the Fire Commission. Mr. Bianco stated, in his opinion, Chief
Rhodes has a personality conflict with Mr. Pinho, which has created
some of the complaints from the Wrightsboro Volunteer Fire
Department.
A lengthy discussion was held on the change in the by-laws for
the appointment of members to the Fire Commission. Mr. Rhodes
reported the original appointment procedure was excellent; however,
politics had become involved, and in his opinion, the appointment
of members living outside their districts had created conflicts and
problems on the Fire Commission.
Chairman Greer advised that appointment of a more diverse Fire
Commission should be an advantage, not a disadvantage, and he
reported the reason for postponing recent appointments to the Fire
Commission was because the Commissioners felt the members working
with the Consolidation Public Safety Committee should continue to
serve until the consolidation issue was decided by the voters in
October. He assured the Volunteer Fire Departments that all
vacancies on the Fire Commission would be filled at the second
meeting in October.
Mr. Rhodes commented on the lack of involvement by the
Volunteer Fire Departments in preparing the fire plan being
proposed for the consolidated government, and he presented a plan
that had been prepared by the seven Volunteer Fire Departments as
of last night. He reported the plan would provide for an effective
and cost-efficient fire service in the County regardless of whether
the two governments consolidate. He urged the Commissioners to
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read and review the plan before voting on the plan being
recommended by the Public Safety Consolidation Study Committee.
Chairman Greer opened the meeting to receive comments from the
public and requested each person to limit their remarks to three
minutes.
The following remarks were presented:
Mr.
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Jim Tyler expressed concern about raising the fire tax to
a paid fire service and stated if taxes continue to
the average man will not be able to live in New Hanover
Mr. Ed Worrell, Vice-President of the Ogden Volunteer Fire
Department, commented on the proposed plan prepared by the seven
Volunteer Fire Departments and reported as an older member of the
volunteer organization, he felt the plan was an economical and
efficient way to provide quality fire service to New Hanover County
for the next 10-15 years regardless of whether consolidation is
approved or disapproved. He urged the Commissioners to review the
plan before making a final decision on the plan proposed by the
Public Safety Consolidation Committee.
A lengthy discussion was held on the need to provide quality
fire protection to the urbanized County. Commissioner Caster
expressed appreciation to the Volunteer Firemen for the outstanding
job they perform in the provision of fire service. He reported on
the rapid growth that has occurred and will continue to occur in
the County, and he urged the Volunteer Firemen to work with the
Fire Commission and Board of County Commissioners in making the
necessary changes to provide a quality fire service to meet these
demands. He stated whether consolidation is approved or
disapproved, a plan will have to be implemented with some paid
personnel in order to provide fire service throughout New Hanover
County.
A lengthy discussion was held on ISO ratings. Commissioner
Sisson reported the response time, manpower, and other items are
computed into the ISO ratings; however, without an adequate water
supply, the County will have a problem with ISO ratings.
Further discussion was held on the need for the GIS mapplng
system to be completed in order to provide a quick response through
the CAD System. Emergency Management Director, Dan Summers,
reported the mapping proj ect had been delayed because of the
difficulty being experienced in obtaining accurate boundaries.
Mr. Aubrey Rivenbark emphasized the importance of the maps
being accurate and reported the maps should be forwarded to the
State within 30 days. He advised the Board that insurance ratings
would not be lost because the maps had not been completed.
After further discussion of the conflict areas, Chairman Greer
suggested that the Fire Commission should clearly define the
responsibilities of the Wrightsboro Volunteer Fire Department and
reimburse the department for expenses incurred in the provision of
fire service to the North Wilmington area. In turn, the
Wrightsboro Volunteer Fire Department will be required to submit
documents clearly justifying expenditures for the provision of the
fire service to this area before additional funds can be approved
by the Fire Commission.
Further discussion was held on the proposed plan presented by
the Volunteer Fire Departments. Commissioner Barone emphasized the
importance of following normal procedure and suggested the plan be
reviewed by the Fire Commission before any decision was rendered by
the Board of County Commissioners. She commented on the invaluable
service rendered by the Volunteer Fire Departments and reported she
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felt the conflict areas could be worked out with the Fire
Commission.
Consensus: After further discussion, it was the consensus of the
Board for the Fire Commission to review the plan submitted tonight
by the Volunteer Fire Departments and prepare a recommendation to
the Board of County Commissioners before considering action on the
plan.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Greer expressed appreciation for the remarks received
and adjourned the Work Session at 8:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Lucie F. Harrell
Clerk to the Board