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NEW HANOVER COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
JOINT MEETING WITH HOSPITAL BOARD, MARCH 18, 1993
BOOK 23
PAGE 380
ASSEMBLY
The New Hanover County Board of Commissioners held a Work
Session with members of the New Hanover Regional Medical Center
Board of Trustees on March 18, 1993, at 6:00 P.M. in the Conference
Room of the hospital, 2131 South 17th Street, Wilmington, North
Carolina.
Members present were: Commissioners Sandra Barone; WilliamA.
Caster; William E. Sisson, Jr.; vice-Chairman E. L. Mathews, Jr.;
Chairman Robert G. Greer; County Manager, Allen 0' Neal; County
Attorney, Wanda M. Copley; and Clerk to the Board, Lucie F.
Harrell.
Chairman Greer called the meeting to order.
Mr. Eugene A. Lees, Chairman of the Hospital Board of
Trustees, welcomed the Commissioners and stated the Trustees have
been looking forward to this meeting in order to present a report
on the activities of the New Hanover Regional Medical Center. The
philosophy of the Board of Trustees and Administrative Staff is to
make decisions that are in the best interest of the hospital as
well as the community. New Hanover Regional Medical Center is one
of the best hospitals in the State of North Carolina and the
Trustees are proud of this accomplishment.
Also, the purpose of the meeting is to open up better
communications and to discuss concerns expressed by the Board of
County Commissioners.
PRESENTATION ON THE ACTIVITIES OF NEW HANOVER REGIONAL MEDICAL
CENTER
The mission statement of the hospital is as follows: New
Hanover Regional Medical Center is a team-centered, value-focused,
teaching provider of quality health care to all in need of its
serVlces.
The following facts were presented:
-568 beds, plus 60 approved rehabilitation beds.
-The second largest employer in the County with 2,500
employees, 300 physicians, 750 volunteers and one of the 10
largest hospitals in the state. This is the only major high-
tech, teaching medical center within 100 miles. The hospital
has a sizeable economic impact on the County with a
$74,000,000 payroll encouraging local purchasing and
stimulating business for local contractors and vendors.
-Clinical facts were presented on inpatient serVlces,
outpatient services, and other services.
The operational structure of the Hospital Board of Trustees
was presented with a list of the various committees and Trustees
appointed to those boards. Emphasis was placed on the need to have
at least 15 members on the Board of Trustees in order to carry out
the many responsibilities that are required for the operation of an
efficient and effectively managed regional hospital facility. It
was the consensus of all present that 15 members are needed to
serve on the Board as well as on the eight working committees.
KEY TOPICS:
Rehabilitation Hospital: Groundbreaking scheduled for Spring
1993. Opening schedule for the Summer of 1994. The facility
is an $11 million investment.
New Hanover Community Health Center: To provide care access
to medically underserved areas. The hospital is committing to
funding of $1 million for building construction.
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Revenue Bond Issue:
down as follows:
$16 million revenue bond issue broken
Rehabilitation Hospital
NHRMC Energy Plant Improvement
New Hanover Community Health Center
$11 million
$ 4 million
$ 1 million
After review, there are $9 million of additional needs broken
down as follows:
Energy Plant Improvement/Phase 2
Parking Garage
Replace Pneumatic Tube System
$ 5 million
$ 3 million
$ 1 million
Master Engineering Plan: It
improve the 25-year facility
current code requirements.
investment.
lS necessary to upgrade and
to meet existing needs and
This will be a $9 million
Parking: Surface parking additions at Glen Meade and MRI
parking lots. Sixty employees will be relocated to Long Leaf
and Canterbury malls. Displace physician parking and consider
a parking garage.
Other on-golng lssues that must be addressed as follows:
-Clinical Issues
-Uncompensated Care
-Charges/Cost Shifting
-Competition
-Planning/Public Relations
-Borrowing/Revenue Bonds
-Cash Reserves
-Total Quality Management
Discussion was held on the items of concern expressed by the
Board of County Commissioners in the letter of March 17, 1993. The
following items were discussed:
TERMS OF TRUSTEES: Twelve members of the Board of Trustees are
appointed by the County Commissioners to serve a five year term
with no one serving more than one consecutive full term without a
break of at least one full year. The Commissioners would like to
reduce the terms to three years with no one being able to serve
more than two consecutive full terms. Also, the Commissioners want
authority to remove a Trustee upon a unanimous vote by the Board of
County Commissioners.
Mr. Lees reported that the Trustees do have a great deal of
concern for reducing the term from five to three years. Due to the
complexity of operating the hospital, at least two years is
required for a new Trustee to become familiar with the hospital
operation; therefore, only one year remains for a member to
effectively serve as a Trustee before having to apply for
reappointment with the possibility of not being reappointed. It
would be difficult to visualize anyone being able to perform as
Chairman with only three year terms.
Commissioner Caster reported 95% of persons requesting to
serve a second term are reappointed; therefore, he does not feel
reducing the term to three years would be a problem.
Mr. Lees commented on County Commissioners being elected every
two years and stated the possibility does exist that future
Commissioners may not desire to reappoint persons to serve a second
term, which would be detrimental to the hospital. If the terms are
reduced from five to three years, there should be a mechanism ln
place whereby an individual serving on the Hospital Board of
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Trustees making a significant contribution could be appointed to
serve three terms.
Chairman Greer reported on the need for the Board of County
Commissioners to have authority to remove a Trustee by unanlmous
vote.
The physicians and Trustees expressed concern for politics
becoming involved in the removal process and emphasized the
importance of Trustees not feeling they can be removed for
poli tical reasons. Concern was also expressed for the
Commissioners becoming involved with increasing hospital rates
during election years.
Commissioner Barone reported the Commissioners are not
interested in becoming involved in the day-to-day operation of the
hospital; however, the Commissioners would like to be informed when
rates are going to be increased.
Commissioner Sisson reported a problem would have to exist
before the Commissioners would unanimously vote to remove a
Trustee. In his opinion, no Board of Commissioners would consider
this action unless it was necessary. Presently, if a problem does
exist with a Trustee appointed by the Board of County
Commissioners, this member cannot be removed without a
recommendation from the Hospital Board of Trustees. The purpose of
this request is to give some control to the County Commissioners as
well as bring this board into uniformity with all other boards
appointed by the County Commissioners. Emphasis was placed on the
fact that the County Commissioners must answer to the public and
consideration must be given to their concerns. Without the
confidence and support of the public, the hospital will not
continue to grow.
Mr. Lees stated, ln his opinion, if the Commissioners feel a
Trustee should be removed, a letter from the Chairman to the
Hospital Board of Trustees would greatly influence the Trustees and
this action would probably be recommended because of due cause;
therefore, the proposed recommendation is not needed.
Commissioner Barone reported on the
David Plate and the request made by
Commissioners for clarification of events
about this action. Unfortunately, the
recelve an answer.
recent situation with
the Board of County
that happened to bring
Commissioners did not
Mr. Lees reported the hospital attorney advised the Hospital
Board of Trustees not to disclose information since this was a
legal matter.
Commissioner Barone reported the public did not buy that
answer.
Mr. Lees stated the proposed changes will requlre amending the
By-Laws; therefore, no decisions can be made until the entire Board
of Trustees has acted on these proposals. He recommended that Jim
Hobbs and Allen O'Neal work on the comments received with these
items being presented to the full Board of Trustees at a later
date.
Chairman Greer stated these lssues can be discussed and
hopefully worked out to everyone's satisfaction. For example, the
Commissioners have not indicated that once a Trustee serves two
terms, that he cannot serve again. It could be possible that once
a Trustee has served two years, that a person could be appointed to
serve another term without a break of at least a full year.
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After further discussion, it was agreed that the Hospital
Committee would work on a proposal for the terms of Trustees which
will be discussed at a later date. The Hospital President and
County Manager are to work on a proposal for removal of a Trustee
upon a unanimous vote by the Board of County Commissioners.
RENT: The current annual rent for the hospital building and
grounds is one dollar ($1.00). The Commissioners would like to
increase this amount equal to the debt service payments on the
County's outstanding general obligation bonds issued on behalf of
the hospital.
Mr. Lees expressed concern for these costs being shifted to
paying patients. This in essence means this cost has been removed
from the general tax base with paying patients, who are also
taxpayers, receiving the burden of payment.
Mr. Jim Eyerman, the Hospital Finance Officer, reported
refinancing the general obligation bonds would remove this debt
service from the tax rolls and place this debt under the revenue
bonds at the hospital which will save approximately 2%. Bond
Counsel has no problem with refinancing the general obligation
bonds with the revenue bond issue. By proceeding with this
process, everyone will save money.
Consensus: After further discussion, it was generally agreed that
refinancing of the general obligation bonds to debt under the
hospital revenue bond issue would be an ideal way to proceed if the
hospital is comfortable with repayment of the bonds and all legal
requirements have been met.
TERMINATION OF LEASE: The current lease between the County and New
Hanover Regional Medical Center requires that the County give 120
days written notice of intent to terminate the lease and that such
notice shall be given after a public hearing. The Commissioners
would like to amend the written notice to 90 days without a public
hearing being required.
Also the Commissioners would like to amend the current lease
to specifically state that in the event the lease is terminated,
all the real and personal property (real estate, equipment, cash,
etc.) will be owned by New Hanover County.
Mr. Lees inquired as to the benefits received from reducing
the written notice of intent to terminate the lease from 120 days
to 90 days; the benefits derived from not holding a public hearing;
the legal implications; and the impact of the County assuming
financial obligations related to property and leased equipment?
Commissioner Sisson, agaln, reiterated the importance of
standardizing the hospital lease with other County leases and
stated the terms should be the same for all agencies. The recent
lease with the North Wilmington Fire Department was certainly
indicative of the need to respond quickly with terminating the
lease under the 90-day written notice requirement and was most
beneficial to the County in this instance. No one ever thought
this problem would occur at the North Wilmington Volunteer Fire
Department, but it did.
Mr. Lees stated the Hospital Board of Trustees and County
Commissioners should be able to resolve any critical issue in an
expedient manner; therefore, he does not see the need to reduce
written notice of termination from 120 to 90 days.
Vice-Chairman Mathews stated the purpose for the reduction of
written notice is that the Board of Trustees and Board of County
Commissioners have had problems with resolving matters in the past
year.
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Hospital Attorney, Dumay Gorman, recommended a thorough study
of the reversion of real and personal property to the County. If
the Commissioners decide to move in this direction, this issue
must be thoroughly reviewed to see how this process should occur.
When all hospital assets are reverted, the liabilities are also
reverted back to the County; therefore, this item needs to be
studied. Possibly, things should remain as written in the lease
with the corporation not being able to transfer these items without
approval by the Board of County Commissioners.
County
consider:
property;
property.
Attorney Copley stated there are two issues to
(1) if the hospital dissolves, what happens to the
and (2) if the lease is terminated, what happens to the
Chairman Greer reported on the example at the North Wilmington
Fire Department, where taxpayers paid for equipment, and due to the
lease not specifically stating the equipment should revert back to
the County this money was lost. Speaking for the County
Commissioners, if the hospital lease should be terminated, the
Commissioners want assurance that the taxpayers will be protected
and are not left without anything, such as no hospital, no money,
or any other assets. This is the purpose for the request.
Discussion was held on removing the requirement for the public
hearing. Chairman Greer stated, in his opinion, he has no problem
with holding the public hearing or reducing the lease from 120 to
90 days; however, he feels strongly about the lease specifically
stating that all real and personal property should revert back to
the ownership of the County if terminated.
County Attorney Copley reported the Commissioners have two
reasons for requesting that the written notice for termination of
the lease be reduced from 120 to 90 days: (1) the need to act
quickly; and (2) the uniformity of all contracts. As to the
holding a public hearing, the Commissioners feel they should have
an option to decide whether or not to hold a public hearing. If a
public hearing is required and the public demands that the lease be
terminated immediately, the Commissioners would have a difficult
time going against the wishes of the public.
Chairman Greer reported that in most public hearings you hear
only one side, without hearing from the other side.
Commissioner Sisson inquired as to whether the reduction of
written notice to 90 days is a real problem with the Board of
Trustees.
Mr. Lees stated, in his opinion, the reduction of written
notice could possibly be negotiated as well as the requirement for
holding a public hearing; however, these proposals will have to be
presented to the full Board of Trustees.
After further discussion of the present lease, it was
generally agreed to proceed with a proposal to reduce the written
notice of termination from 120 to 90 days; and delete the
requirement for holding a public hearing. It was also concluded
that the attorneys should prepare a proposal or provision that will
revert the property back to the County if the lease is terminated.
Charitable properties will be addressed in this proposal. Both
boards will discuss these proposals and present recommendations to
each other within the next month.
ADJOURNMENT
Vice-Chairman Mathews reported on the need to hold more joint
meetings with the full Hospital Board of Trustees and recommended
scheduling meetings in January and July of each year.
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Consensus: After discussion of the need for better communications
between the two boards, it was the consensus of those present to
schedule a meeting in six months.
Chairman Greer, on behalf of the Board, expressed appreciation
to the members of the Hospital Board of Trustees for inviting the
Commissioners to meet. Appreciation was also expressed for the
excellent job performed by the Hospital Board of Trustees in
overseeing the operation of this outstanding medical facility.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:36 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Lucie F. Harrell
Clerk to the Board
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Consensus: After discussion of the need for better communications
between the two boards, it was the consensus of those present to
schedule a meeting in six months.
Chairman Greer, on behalf of the Board, expressed appreciation
to the members of the Hospital Board of Trustees for inviting the
Commissioners to meet. Appreciation was also expressed for the
excellent job performed by the Hospital Board of Trustees in
overseeing the operation of this outstanding medical facility.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:36 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lucie F. Harrell
Clerk to the Board
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