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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Z19-14
Group 101 - 150
IN OPPOSITION
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Gunther Kempin
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:18 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Gunther Kempin
Address
8705 Thornblade Circle
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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guntherkempin@icloud.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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Public Comment
Logan Homes proposal is beyond reasonable growth/development with nearly 300+ homes/apartments on only 51 acres.
Their proposal is ripe with misleading information, and inaccuracies, provided to those charged with making the decision. We
know that this proposal will have dire consequences for our traffic infrastructure, public safety, storm water and water quality,
and schools.
In addition the relief for traffic on Market street planned by NCDOT has been delayed further complicating the situation! See Star
News article below.
https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/20200526/delays-imminent-for-hampstead-bypass
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Tammy Barbour
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:21 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Tammy Barbour
Address
8808 Olympic Lane
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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tambarbour@gmail.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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This project will be detrimental to the already terrible traffic conditions on Porters Neck Road and Futch Creek Road.
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Elizabeth Cottle
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:27 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Elizabeth Cottle
Address
762 Tuscan Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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egg28465@yahoo.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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Public Comment
I opposed this proposal last year and in the nine months since it has worked its' way through the process I have come to oppose
it more vehemently. This development, as proposed, will prove dire to our traffic infrastructure, public safety, storm and coastal
water quality, and negatively impact our schools.
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Suzanne Neurauter
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:40 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Suzanne Neurauter
Address
8641 Vintage Club Drive
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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Email
zannieopa@gmail.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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This proposal will have dire consequences for our traffic infrastructure, public safety, storm water and water quality, and schools.
The roads in and out of this area are already beyond capacity. Especially when you considered developments that have already
been approved that have not been built out yet. Please don't approve this project which will only make traffic and other
infrastructure conditions a nightmare.
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Jane Ramsey
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:52 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Jane Ramsey
Address
8804 Olympic Lane
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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jgramsey524@gmail.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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This is not the first time I have entered a complaint regarding this project. Changing the zoning will adversely impact the
surrounding neighborhoods and threaten additional flooding. Just look at the mess of the project at the corner of Edgewater
Club Rd. and Porters Neck Rd. The developers there are at least conforming to the existing zoning. But, not one tree was left
standing - the land was raped and denuded. Now, we are facing another deluge of building that will do the same. Please insist
than any development going in the area conform to the existing zoning and that the environment of trees is not destroyed. When
the next hurricane appears, we will be flooded if this is allowed to continue. Pender County has put limits on development and
we need to as well. Money spent on preservation will be money saved when the next storm hits.
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Gary Combs
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:58 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Gary Combs
Address
8820 TILBURY DR
WILMINGTON, NC 28411
United States
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gjcombs@hotmail.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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this proposal calls for too many houses on too little land.
Porter's Neck and Futch Creek Road Roads can't handle the current population of cars. The interchange at Futch Creek and
Market Street with the Michigan U-turn in place is overcrowded with multiple accidents and deaths. Traffic at Porter's Neck Rd
intersection is at a standstill in 5:oo in the afternoon with cars backed up to Walmart and/or Marsh Oaks.
Laney High School is the most over crowded high school.
Flooding of roads from the overbuilding of our area
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Jenny Parlier
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:58 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Jenny Parlier
Address
7815 Bonaventure Drive
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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This project will only lead to future problems for NHC and the residents of the Ogden, Bayshore, Porters Neck, and Hampstead
communities. The traffic is already too heavy for this area and there is such limited space up here, there is no way to redesign
traffic flow to take into account this large number of additional cars every day. Schools and public services (fire, water, safety)
will be significantly overcrowded. Not to mention that it seems like the only new businesses getting developed are car washes
and storage. The local gas stations, grocery stores, and restaurants CANNOT support this large of an increase in a short time.
My bigger concern is flooding and water issues. We lose power regularly just because of rain and trees going down. Add onto
that a huge development of too many homes and apartments, and it will be a nightmare. I live in a neighborhood near (I am not
on) Pages Creek and we already have significant flooding and standing water issues just from the current residents in this area.
I have been upgraded to a flood plain even though I don't live on the Creek. The water flow issues are enough that this entire
neighborhood (Marsh Oaks) will all be considered a flood plain before this development even gets finished, and will significantly
reduce property values in this area. The infrastructure needs to be in place first, not being a scramble to deal with 5-10 years
after the mistake of letting Logan Homes build occurs. So work on improving the area for current tax-paying residents to bring it
up to par, and use that time to plan for any additional development in the future AFTER the infrastructure is in place.
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Shaun Penniman
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:59 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Shaun Penniman
Address
429 Chablis Way
Wilmington, North Carolina (NC) 28411
United States
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Shaunpenniman@gmail.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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The traffic study did not include Phase 3 of Waterstone. They just cleaned out a huge section of land. Now you add in all of
those new homes to the mix, traffic will be horrible, water issues, and more children to attend an already overcrowded school. I
understand all of don't live here so it doesn't matter to you guys, but all of us live here. Please do let this happen.
Thank you
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Deidre Cusack
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:03 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Deidre Cusack
Address
28 Beach Rd S
Wilmington, North Carolina 28411
United States
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dee.e.cus@gmail.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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Density of housing being proposed is too high. Infrastructure not in place to accommodate. Impact on the environment too great.
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Kevin Thomas
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:05 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Kevin Thomas
Address
8737 Bald Eagle Lane
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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kevinandcecilia@gmail.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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With the existing growth in this area, this development would create huge traffic problems. At a minimum, it would require the
roads in the area, especially Porters Neck road and the circle to be greatly expanded to handle the additional traffic. Porters
Neck road would need to be 4 lanes. Currently, any utility work being done in that area even just for a day or two causes huge
traffic delays and backups. I oppose the construction of this development in such a limited area. The Brookstone development
project is already causing traffic issues so we do not need another development in the area.
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Patricia Blenk
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:11 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Patricia Blenk
Address
600 Salo Street
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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pblenk40@gmail.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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Please consider the what this increased housing will cause to our infrastructure, schools, sewage, water supply. It will truly
overload the infrastructure that is in place with unwanted traffic, over load our already stressed school system and storm water
drainage, sewers and water supply. This overloading of available homes will help to make This area of Wilmington become
undesirable to live in. Don't destroy this lovely area with the overload. It has to have less built Mostly apartments. There are
several Apartment complexes already built in the area and still in building phases. This will also lower our home values as the
area changes not for the better.
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Marian Beckett
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:13 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Marian Beckett
Address
8734 New Forest Drive
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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marianbeckett2@gmail.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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Traffic, school student assimilation and population density concerns. History of lack of transparency and provision of information
on the part of the Commission and developers regarding proposed projects in the Porters Neck area.
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Ashlee Siegel
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:17 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Ashlee Siegel
Address
516 Captain Dexter Wynd
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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Rileys01@yahoo.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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I OBJECT TO THIS PROJECT!!!
Our community is over built already. Allowing this project to continue will only add to our issues with flooding in our area. Our
brand new school is at max capacity. New students to the area aren’t allowed to enroll and are bused 45-60 minutes away. DO
THE RIGHT THING!!! Give us a break!!!
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Susan Keifer
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:12 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Attachments:MessageNHC.Commissioners1.pdf
Name
Susan Keifer
Address
1216 CONGRESSIONAL LN
WILMINGTON, NC 28411-8316
United States
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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I oppose the Oaks at Murray Farm development for the reasons stated 1/25/2020 by Bob Kaess, a fellow resident of the Porters
Neck community to the NH County Commissioners. This is not NAMBYism. We have valid reasons to be concerned, namely:
1). Incomplete traffic analysis conducted on behalf of Logan Homes based on limited scope and timing,
2). Approved developments in the Porters Neck communities will add over 500 new homes, none of which were factored in to
the Traffic Impact Analysis.
3). The Murray Farm development includes apartments that have no access to network streets and will not be served by public
transit; therefore, they will be unconnected and auto-dependent.
4. The Porters Neck community has the most restricted access per capita in the county with only one full intersection at Market
Street and limited access via Futch Creek to US 17.
Please represent the 1000's of families in Porters Neck and reject this development as its proposed.
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MessageNHC.Commissioners1.pdf
From:Bob Kaess in.kaess@gmail.com
Subject:Porters Neck--Perspectives and Positions on Dense Development
Date:January 25, 2020 at 2:07 PM
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Dear Commissioners, New Hanover County
I recently heard a presentation from the Wilmington Director, Planning, Development &
Transportation who described a list of Ten Ways to Build an Even Better Wilmington. Please
consider number [3] on that list:
Welcome density, but not just anywhere.
Dense development, particularly dense residential development, works well when it adjoins
service, has direct access to a well-connected network of streets, and is served by transit.
Conversely, dense development, whether residential or commercial, adds heavily to traffic
congestion when isolated, unconnected, and automobile dependent.
Logan Homes’ is proposing dense development in Porters Neck, an area with the most
restricted access per capita in New Hanover County. Apartments included in The Oaks at
Murray Farm will have no direct access to network streets, they will not be served by transit,
they will be isolated, unconnected, and automobile dependent.
In short, these proposed apartments in Porters Neck are exemplary of “dense” development in
every negative sense of the word. You will soon hear several arguments regarding quality of life
and environment. There are even credible arguments regarding risk to life itself.
Out of respect for others from my community and your time, I am attaching three single page
position papers all related to traffic that advocate:
(1)Apartments as part of The Oaks at Murray Farm are detrimental and unfit for this area.
(2)The Traffic Impact Analysis was incomplete and describes what’s missing.
(3)The Proposed new Futch Creek Rd access to US-17 may risk life itself.
I chose to submit information in this format to prepare you, in part, for the public hearing
February 3rd. As a former senior USAF staff officer, I have used single page point papers for
background and advocacy preparation prior to Pentagon and Congressional Committee
hearings. I have copied your staff, clerk and deputy clerk, to assist if you seek anything further
prior to the meeting.
Thank you in advance for your consideration,
Bob Kaess
Tuscan Way, Porters Neck
APARTMENTS ARE DETRIMENTAL AND UNFIT IN ALL ASPECTS TO PORTERS NECK
There is nothing “typical” about Porters Neck/Figure 8 Island traffic access. In fact, we claim this area has
the most restricted access per capita in New Hanover County. The entire area is constrained by one full
intersection at Market Street and one controlled access to US-17.
Our concerns for traffic impact were dismissed January 9th by Ernest Olds, Member of the Planning
Board who lives in Marsh Oaks, when he reported better than forecasted impact to Market St access,
following development of Amberleigh Shores Phase I Apartments.
While Mr. Olds’ experience is a fact, it is not a relevant comparison to the Logan proposal for The Oaks
at Murray Farm. This figure illustrates the reasons Marsh Oaks is blessed with much greater traffic
access than Porters Neck and virtually no burden from approved Apartment Communities.
In fact, there
is no relevant
comparison to
the Logan
proposal for
Porters Neck.
We identified
and studied
fourteen (14)
Apartment
Communities
(Existing &
Construction)
between
Mayfaire and
Pender
County.
NOT ONE
apartment
community in
New Hanover County is a valid comparison to the apartments proposed in Porters Neck.
Benefits of apartments in The Oaks at Murray Farm are limited to D. Logan and the sellers. Every other
impact of this development, requiring rezoning for density, is detrimental: Traffic, Public Safety, Schools,
and Environmental are all threatened.
ROI is the ONLY Justification for Apartments in Porters Neck. D. Logan agreed with the following
statement: “At the end of the day, it [the proposal] will just not work without apartments.” This was
based on ROI at the contracted price. * Furthermore, Logan Homes would only agree to remove one, not
two 24-unit buildings, proposed by Planning Board Member Paul Boney for internal traffic safety.
* This direct acknowledgement from D. Logan was recorded November 8th during meeting Logan Homes requested with HOA leaders.
[Exchange with D. Logan and Jonathan McCarthy – MP3 available]
Bottom line: There is absolutely nothing positive presented by Logan Homes for this apartment
development and no confidence in this community. PLEASE PREVENT DENSE DEVELOPMENT!
TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS INCOMPLETE
Traffic infrastructure issues are driven by supply and demand. The supply of Porters Neck access and
arteries are constrained and being overcome by developing demand. It will take years of Federal, State,
and County resources and effort to change Porters Neck supply. The immediate opportunity for County
Commissioners is to limit the rate of growing Porters Neck demand.
The people in Porters Neck and Figure 8 Island are not opposed to development. Our concerns regard
the rate of development and the threats to environment and quality of life. Principal among those
threats are the impacts of traffic.
Traffic Impact Analysis has become a key talking point within the community and with County decision
makers. During the recent Planning Board Meeting there was a claim that NCDOT “approved” Logan’s
Traffic Impact Analysis. From residents came the call “Fake Study”.
The Ramey Kemp & Associates (RKA) TIA presented for Logan Homes was called a “Fake Study”. This TIA
was prepared by licensed professionals. Why call it a fake study? NCDOT may “agree” with the TIA, but
how could they “approve” it? What’s wrong? What’s missing?
When you live in Porters Neck you are the traffic and you experience its impact during countless days, in
and outside the boundaries of the communities. It does not take professional license or expertise to
realize the RKA TIA was limited in scope of time and area studied.
What’s wrong? What’s missing?
• Scope of Traffic Counts: Traffic counts were conducted during a single day with AM and PM 2hour
peak periods at several intersections. Real life Porters Neck traffic counts vary widely during
different days, different hours, different locations at intersections beyond the RKA TIA scope. Porters
Neck Road is not simply a traffic circle and Market Street intersection. Connection between these
points in this most important artery also includes uncontrolled access streets for 6 communities and
35 driveways. It is literally an artery of life support for EMS to the Davis Community and beyond.
• Public Safety for Futch Creek traffic: The hazards of traffic departing and returning were not included
in the RKA TIA. There was no risk analysis. Indeed, there will be new avoidable risk introduced by
Logan Homes planning a second exit lane onto US-17. This must not be approved without resolution
of other US-17 issues. Because this risk is identified—it will not be unintended consequence.
• Known increase in demand from over 300 homes approved for development. Here are the details
not discussed in RKA’s analysis:
o Edgewater Club Impact on Traffic Circle: Waterstone at time of TIA, only 10 homes were occupied. [Add
137 more in process/approved].
o Porters Neck Road Impact on Traffic Circle: Forest Creek approved to triple in size from 45 current lots.
[Add 90 homes].
o Porters Neck Road Direct Access Impact: Porters Point (58 homes) approved to double in size [Add 50
homes]
o Futch Creek Road: The Villages at Plantation Landing under construction. [Add 49 homes]
• Growing outside demand for Market Street-Porters Neck intersection. No analysis of commercial
retail and restaurant development northwest of the intersection including the new Holiday Inn.
Bottom line: There are no quick fixes to supply greater access—there’s little NCDOT can do. There are
opportunities to limit demand and detriments to public safety. PLEASE PREVENT DENSE DEVELOPMENT!
DISAPPROVE NEW RISK - Logan Homes’ proposed 2nd Futch Creek Rd lane to US-17N
This 2-lane right turn is NOT similar to the previous Military Cutoff merge to Northbound Market Street.
There are two relevant differences to RISK of life and property:
(1) Right Turn on RED traffic from 2 lanes risks highway speed traffic at (or above) 55MPH limit.
(2) Right Turn on GREEN traffic from 2 lanes competes with high demand for short distance to U-
Turn for Southbound US-17 and I-140.
(1)
Traffic causing
hazards is
indicated in
RED.
Vehicles in the
left lane
obstruct view
of oncoming
traffic for
drivers in the
right lane
attempting
right turn on
RED.
(2)
Demand for
the U-Turn
access lane
(150 yards
away) risks
hazardous
merges and a
growing queue
caused by
dense
development
increasing
obstruction
risk for US-
17N #1 lane
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Allen Allegretto
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:19 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Allen Allegretto
Address
8600 Fazio Drive
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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Allegrettoa@yahoo.com
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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Public Comment
Congestion is a serious problem for the Porters Neck communities. Residents have tried to articulate this during the community
meetings with Logan Homes, the Planning Board and County Commissioners. The developer tried to spin numbers to look
favorable for high density development which glazes over the root of the problem. Here are some numbers I hope the county
commissioners will consider.
Porters Neck communities consist of 5.1 square miles of neighborhoods which are served by 2 access roads. One of these
access roads is Futch Creek Road which being constrained in the direction for drivers is equivalent to a half access road since
you can on travel north which adds an additional two miles of driving distance. By comparison, the Bayshore/Amberleigh
Shores/Marsh Oaks neighborhoods consist of only 1.2 square miles served by 3 access roads. Middle Sound Loop communities
consist of 4 square miles and have 5 access roads.
In comparison Porters Neck traffic density is four to eight times higher than any of the neighboring communities. Past history
created this bad situation with no feasible solutions for additional access roads. Please do not make the situation worse by
approving the high density rezoning request in front of you for Logan Homes.
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Smith, Gideon
From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Margaret Meadows
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:29 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Margaret Meadows
Address
8524 Bald Eagle Ln
Wilmington, North Carolina 28411
United States
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Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market Street/Shiraz Way
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Strongly oppose proposed development. It will have dire consequences for our traffic infrastructure, public safety, storm water
and water quality, and schools.
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Smith, Gideon
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:33 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Jim Parker
Address
813 Wine Cellar Circle
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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We oppose this development and have opposed from the first time we heard about it.
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:40 PM
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
debra pennington
Address
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Wilmington, North Carolina 28411
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Greed that's all this is! There isn't a single good reason for this many homes!
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From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Penny Sauer
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:42 PM
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Penny Sauer
Address
8846 New Forest Drive
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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Density of project and growth to area without infrastructure is Inappropriate
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From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Ralph Weeks
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:48 PM
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Ralph Weeks
Address
8712 Lake Nona Drive
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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The traffic in the area is already too crowded. We do not have the infrastructure for this many homes and it will crowd schools.
There is already over-the-top building in this area. Where are the schools. I can't even get good cell coverage or internet
reception now - just imagine when even more people take over. Even electricity seems strapped - and seems to go out at least
one day a month... This is a plan to maximize profits for one individual or company - not create a livable space for the county's
people...
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Roger Wells
Address
1205 Congressional Ln
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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The Logan Homes zoning request should not be approved. This project greatly increases the density of the homes and
apartments on this parcel. Existing local infrastructure and county resources will be overwhelmed by the added increase
resident density. The total homes and apartments will be 406 units when the project is completed. This number of homes will
increase street traffic on Porters Neck Rd and surrounding roads creating traffic problems for emergency vehicles and residents.
The additional children living in the project will overwhelm the new elementary school that was recently completed.
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:50 PM
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Jill Manzo
Address
8834 Tilbury Drive
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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As a coastal community it is imperative that we protect what is left of the natural resources in our area in order to protect our
homes and the quality of life in a steadily eroding environment. Traffic on Porters Neck Road, Futch Creek and Market Street
are already beyond capacity and adding apartments will implode our roadways and create dangerous traffic conditions.
In addition to the traffic, the uprooting of trees and vegetation will increase flooding under normal rain conditions; imagine what it
will do in more dire storms. Water quality is already questionable and additional building will only make it worse. I understand
that Wilmington is growing and affordable housing is required, however, there are other parcels of land West of Market that
might be more advantageous and safer for the community.
The future of our education may lie in a balance if we continue to overcrowd schools and create a void for the children to access
a safe environment and proper size classrooms. It is already problematic to get students to Blair school, with the influx of more
vehicles, this will only get worse.
The studies that have been done appear distorted and tilted towards building, but the reality of what exists does not. I have
listened to the DOT report that the traffic will not be impacted much, but I would like to know what time of day they actually did
the study, since every time I try to get across Market from Futch Creek to make a U-turn, I have a long wait, except during the
stay at home mandate.
I also implore you to review the water federation’s findings on the impact to shellfish life and the waters in the marsh being
affected. As is, we do a lot of damage to our environment, let us at least try to slow the damage and limit the builds in highly
sensitive areas.
As our county commissioners, you have been trusted to make sound decisions to grow our county responsibly. In addition, we
expect that you will protect us and make sound decisions that are best for the citizens inhabiting the neighborhoods. I urge you
to make a responsible decision to exclude any and all apartment builds in the Porters Neck area east of Market Street. The land
cannot support such structures and influx of the number of people that would be living there.
In closing, I strongly object to the rezoning to allow Logan to build apartments on the 52 acre parcel by Porters Neck Road and
Shiraz. Thank you for you time and consideration.
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From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Carol Cole
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:51 PM
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Carol Cole
Address
8624 Plantation Landing Drive
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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cvcole@peak.org
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I am in favor of appropriate development of land for commercial, residential, educational, recreational and government purposes
– growth that is consistent with current and future needs and constraints. I also understand that “everyone” wants more growth,
including more and more tax revenue.
However, we’re no longer living in the world most of us were born into. We’ve seen the summers get hotter – water restrictions
have become more frequent, storms (including hurricanes) have become far more damaging, and ghost forests – due to
seawater creep – are expanding. With what we know about weather changes alone, we’re NOW LOOKING AT A FUTURE
THAT WILL BE QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF THE PAST. And that, good stewardship would demand, means that we
need to adjust our thinking and prepare for it.
IN short – this is not 1990, or even 2000. We have experienced and understand more the climate issues that we now – and will
continue to – face. As well as their consequences.
We need to ensure that we do not permit conditions that will cause us to experience the same issues we’ve experienced in past
storms – high water, flooded homes, closed roads, power loss, and such. And ensure that we don’t permit issues that affect
community safety, livability, and finances. As one dictionary states: Carrying capacity: the number of people, other living
organisms, or crops that a region can support without environmental degradation.
The goal here is to develop wisely, but sustainably, to understand that future reality will mean multiple instances of major
damage – and escalated loss and cost – for any area that lacks adequate resilience for responding to major tropical storms.
That said, Porters Neck, an area of low elevation just off the ICW, incorporating or adjacent to several creeks and/or streams,
has been increasingly at risk over the last several years as additional development has occurred. The retention ponds and
drainage systems currently available – as everyone knows – didn’t serve well in Florence, so removing several additional acres
of drainage and paving over a larger portion of that area will only make the situation worse.
Homes on small lots have a far smaller percentage of permeable surface than homes on larger lots. And apartment buildings
and their necessary parking lots remove significantly more of the needed permeable surface. Given the carrying capacity of this
area, a residential development with homes on larger lots and a few large retention ponds would do considerably less damage
to this area in future weather- and water-related events.
As a retiree, I’ve found this a congenial place to live. However, given the now-certain future we know, if – today – I had to redo
that decision, knowing what I now know I'm not certain I'd choose to live in New Hanover County. You – as representatives of
this County’s residents and taxpayers – are in a position of responsibility. What you choose to do will help to make this county a
more desirable place to call home, or a mismanaged financial disaster. So please, don’t make this retiree regret her decision.
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:55 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Judy DeMartis
Address
8834 Tilbury Dr
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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Please work with the Porters Neck community and help us protect this area from: overdevelopment, loss of vegetated buffers
areas that absorb stormwater runoff, unstainable traffic infrastructure, overall public safety, degrading water quality,
overpopulated schools and general overdevelopment. As our NH County Commissioners your decision to halt the existing
proposal of the Logan Homes build is imperative. As our county commissioners, you have been trusted to make sound
decisions to grow our county responsibly. In addition, we expect that you will protect us and make sound decisions that are best
for the citizens inhabiting the neighborhoods.
I whole heartily object to the rezoning proposal regarding the Logan Homes build. Please, as our elected officials, remain true to
your promises of being our voices here in the Porters Neck area and listen to the true concerns of this community. Thank you.
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:59 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Stephen Moran
Address
8044 Reunion Rd
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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As a registered voter I feel this project is way to aggressive with the amount of homes this proposal is building. Traffic is already
getting very high on Porters Neck Road and the Waterstone Project is yet to be completed. I believe versus new homes in such
a small area the infrastructure on Porters Neck road should be enhanced with sidewalks and crosswalks up on Market Street.
We should be beautifying the area and not making it any more congestive just to make a dollar. There are already too many
storage units and fast food restaurants in the area for my liking as well. I am against this project.
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 5:14 PM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Derek Bunn
Address
8407 Reisling Avenue
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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We live on a speedway, aka Reisling Avenue, this type of development will add hundreds more to the already over populated
and poorly planned roads. It will be a nightmare for everyone. Not to mention over populating the schools that are ALREADY
full.
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From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Derek Bunn
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Sent:Friday, May 29, 2020 9:37 AM
To:Schuler, Brad; Meredith, Ron; Smith, Gideon; Vafier, Ken; Gartin, Jyll
Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Derek Bunn
Address
8407 Reisling Ave
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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We do not want apartments in porters neck !! Traffic is already a mess , oblivious if you live here in porters neck
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From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Celeste Anderson
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 5:14 PM
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Celeste Anderson
Address
2500 Ashby Dr.
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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We will be moving into that area soon and vehemently oppose a high-density development in the Porter's Neck Rd area.
Crowded roads are already a major issue in all of the Porter's Neck area as is flooding. You can put in all the drainage ditches
and ponds you want, but they will never divert and clear water to the extent that large trees and plants, in general, can. Flooding
in SE NC has increasingly become a problem as more building continues to take place. This area is a single-family home
neighborhood, from Figure Eight to Plantation Landing. We, the residents, want to keep it this way. Mr. Logan, please find
another state.
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From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Thomas and J Laurie
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 5:16 PM
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Thomas and J Laurie Renart
Address
8806 Sawmill Creek Lane
Wilmington, North Carolina 28411
United States
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I oppose the magnitude of their project and the high density buildings they are proposing. The area in question was zoned for
single family development and should not be rezoned just because the influence of a powerful corporation,Logan Builders, has
on the members of our local Government. Logan's reason is to make a huge profit, there is no other benefit. The over crowding
of housing units, huge traffic increase, limited egress( especially in an emergency), drainage and flooding problems and
potential of numerous other builders looking to add multi unit apartments in the area, does nothing but cause problems and
diminishes our property values. The hundreds of houses being built off of Edgewater Club Road and the Hundreds of units of
Logans proposed development have only two roads, Porters Neck and Futch Creek. They cannot safely handle such a huge
amount of traffic which will travel them. The character of our neighborhood should not be downgraded just for the greedy
purposes of one corporation. Do not rezone, keep the single family neighborhoods. This area is being over developed as is, do
not totally change it's character.
Would the individual Board members support such a project in their own neighborhood?
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From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Robert Pennington
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 5:21 PM
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Robert Pennington
Address
727 Chablis Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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This will cause an extraordinary amount of traffic and flooding to the area. There are safety concerns for our children.
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Name
Larry Jamieson
Address
1112 Tennwood Dr
Wilmington, North Carolina 28411
United States
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In the last board meetings, the issues related to the increase in the number of students in the schools came up. It appears that
some young students are going to have to be bussed 45 minutes each way to attend another elementary school. The classroom
sizes are going to be maxed which will have a negative effect on the learning environment. Why was this not discussed by the
board?
The issues of traffic also came up and those supporting the project indicated that there would only be an increase in a few
seconds in the commute time. The reality is that there will be a huge increase in commute time.
Further the intersection of Futch Creek and Rt.17 is extremely dangerous. Cars going into Wilmington will have to merge onto
17 and then do a quick U-turn to go back on 17 the correct way. There is major traffic at these intersections during rush hour
and it makes it an extremely dangerous area to travel.
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Name
Michael Ankrum
Address
302 Saltram Court
Wilmington, North Carolina 28411
United States
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will create too much traffic and change the nature of the area too much.
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 6:09 PM
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Name
Patricia Smith
Address
641 Wild Dunes Circle
Wilmington, North Carolina 28411
United States
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There are too many units being considered in this development. The two roads offering access to Market St., cannot
accommodate the traffic. Is the developer paying for infrastructure/improvements to roads? Has there been any engineering
studies on what all this development will do to water runoff?
Many thanks,
Tricia Smith
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 6:10 PM
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Name
George Wick
Address
719 Tuscan Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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Dwick24@gmail.com
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Since bringing the School to our area, traffic has become a nightmare and we have the new development near the school that is
going to add considerably more traffic and will weigh on the water & sewer capacity of this are. I have been opposed to The
Oaks project from the beginning. Please do NOT approve this project!
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From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Barbara R.Smith
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 6:12 PM
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Name
Barbara R. Smith
Address
1110 Tennwood Drive
Wilmington, North Carolina 28411
United States
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I am 100% opposed to the Logan project as it threatens the fragile ecological balance re: erosion from deforestation,( view the
horror of the Waterstone development), it inflicts the area with added congestion and pollution, and it affects adversely the
infrastructure and sewage overload.
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 6:18 PM
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Name
Eileen Regan
Address
8502 reisling Avenue
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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Fillardem@hotmail.com
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As a resident of the neighboring community I can attest to you the location of the planned apartments will create more traffic
through my neighborhood where children are playing. While the location of the apartments give the appearance they are on
market street, there is no direct access to Market Street. It is no different then putting apartments in the back of a neighborhood
as they will be cutting through to come and go.
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From:mvolkmar=nhcgov.com@webformsnhcgov.com on behalf of Wendy Fonvielle
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 6:21 PM
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Name
Wendy Fonvielle
Address
734 Tuscan Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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I am definitely apposed to having apartment buildings erected in the middle of residential neighborhoods with such limited
access to major roads. Would love to see a beautiful development with single family homes or duplexes done on this property
with extra regard to the sensitive ecosystem in our area. The infrastructure and the school system in our area would see a
definite negative impact from the current plans. Please hear our concerns! Thank you!
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Sent:Wednesday, May 27, 2020 6:40 PM
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Name
Victoria Nazelrod
Address
693 Chablis Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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I vehemently oppose this project as it will paralyze an already overwhelmed Porters Neck, Futch Creek and adjoining hwy17.
We don't not have the infrastructure to support this additional housing and their plan is to run all of this increased traffic through
our Vineyard Plantation neighborhoods. This is dangerous and the cost to safety is too high to pay.
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Smith, Gideon
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
Street/Shiraz Way
Name
Erica Nelson
Address
614 Grange St
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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We are opposed to the development, which will be disruptive and overwhelming to traffic patterns. Our neighborhood and
surrounding area have been opposed to this toxic development since day one. PLEASE do not ruin our piece of heaven with
this development NONE of the neighbors want. Government is supposed to support the will of it’s people, not ignore us. Please
listen to the majority and do the right thing, finding another location for this development. We are all for housing...not housing
that will make life miserable for all involved, including potential future tenants. Please see reason. Thank you.
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Smith, Gideon
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STEPHEN MORRIS
Address
8705 PLANTATION LANDING DRIVE
WILINGTON, NC 28411
United States
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The Planning Board/Commission is a rubber stamp for developers. They unequally enforce time limits for citizens to speak but
allow developers to ramble on without limit. They approve EVERY project turning New Hanover County into an urban sprawl.
We do not have the roads, the schools or institutions to support this unchecked development. Stop it and allow the County to
digest what has been approved to date before allowing new projects.
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Paula Hayes
Address
1218 Verandah Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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Too dense a project for such limited infrastructure and access.
Too much loss of permeable surfaces, and a likely change to hydrology affecting storm water runoff along Porters Neck Road.
(Limited rainfall already has the retention pond at Waterstone over half full. Obviously Porters Neck Road is already at threat
from current construction.)
I am not apposed to development. I am Strongly opposed to irresponsible overdevelopment.
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Trish Ziermann
Address
725 Winery Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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The proposed project is still too dense for this property size and location. Many sections of the property are already very narrow,
especially in the section that the builder is proposing to build the town homes and apartments. Why try to literally squeeze in 300
units into an area that should truly only have a third of that? If you look at the other developments surrounding the proposed
area, consuming at least twice the size of this property, you probably wouldn't find 200 homes. Porters Neck is a great place to
live and I'm sure the builder want to maximize the potential of this area, but there are quite a few other factors that need to be
addressed prior to a project of this magnitude. Porters Neck Road has seen a substantial increase in traffic with the addition of
Porters Neck Elementary School & the new Waterstone development. With those (2) additions alone, we need to look towards
the plan for road improvements before additional residences are built. Porters Neck Road is only a two lane road. Can Porters
Neck Road expand into a four lane road? Is it feasible? Has DOT completed a study? If so, how long would before that project
could start? Why race to populate Porters Neck to such an increase population now when the infrastructure is not truly there?
Another concern is water drainage. Porters Neck has seen an increase in water drainage issues in the last few years. Part of
Porters Neck Road, not far from this property line, washed away during Florence. If this were to happen again, with the addition
of Waterstone and The Oaks at Murray Farm, could the problem be worse? Would flooding wash out more of the road?
Porters Neck has been a great place to live. Logan Homes has built a strong and respectable reputation as one of the best
builders in the Southeast. They have built some amazing developments in other parts of our county. They have the ability to
maximize profits building well built single family homes on this property without having to build so much extra fluff (as in
apartments & town homes). I would encourage our Commissioners to help us preserve our areas, expand wisely and encourage
growth that will continue to attract folks to want to call Wilmington home.
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Gina Trent
Address
602 Winery Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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I opposed this project 9 months ago, and since it's worked through the system I've only come to oppose it more. This project will
bring in more traffic and overcrowd the schools and that is very concerning.
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John Natale
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608 Kauri Street
Wilmington, NC - North Carolina 28411
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My opposition for Z19-14 changing existing R15 to RMF-L is based on development which is not cautiously evaluated and will
have lasting effects on the Porters Neck and greater New Hanover County. Elements of grave concern to me are focused on the
apartments and duplexes increasing density without sufficient critical services already stressed in this area.
The Traffic Impact Analysis presented to the Planning Board was incomplete and the community’s response provided expert
witnessed testimony describing in detail what is missing.
The Proposed new Futch Creek Rd access to US-17 cannot safely alleviate congestion which will eventually lead to
unnecessary loss of life.
These and many other issues include already over crowed schools, storm water drainage, environmental impacts surge, waste
management, emergency response all leading to a decreasing quality of life.
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Smith, Gideon
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Subject:Public Comment on Z19-14 – The Oaks at Murray Farm – 8300 Block of “Old” Market
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Name
Scott Trent
Address
602 Winery Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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strent@modern-aviation.com
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This project does not fit in the designated area. It will overwhelm the community. There is no supporting structure in traffic
patterns or school seats.
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Smith, Gideon
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Name
Heather Dant
Address
507 Chablis Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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I fully oppose and am against this project.
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Smith, Gideon
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Name
Mary O'LEARY
Address
725 Tuscan Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
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There appears to not be enough exits from this development & the water table is already high.At peak school hours the rotary
will be very difficult to get around
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MaryScott Wilson
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890 Wine Cellar Circle
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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We oppose!!!!
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Kenneth Wilson
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Wilmington, NC 28411
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We oppose
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Smith, Gideon
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Kenneth McRostie
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117 Spring Creek Lane
Wilmington, NC 28411
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As a 15+ year resident of the greater Porters Neck area, we have seen growth over the years and so far, while the growth is not
always welcome, it has been reasonable and stayed within the current zoning of the area. The Logan Homes request/proposal
to rezone the 51 acres off of Shiraz Way and build 300+ homes/apartments is too much. The density of the housing they are
proposing will bring a myriad of problems to an already growing and soon to be overpopulated area. If this project is approved
there will be significant negative consequences for our traffic infrastructure, public safety, storm water and water quality, and
schools. I am asking you as elected officials representing the citizens of New Hanover County to vote "NO" on the rezoning
request and require Logan Homes to develop their project within the current zoning of the area.
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Name
Regina Holliman
Address
738 Chablis Way
Wilmington, NC 28411
United States
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Schools and traffic will be extremely crowded. Traffic is already hectic at all times not just peak hours.