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NEW HANOVER COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS BOOK 27
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DECEMBER 14, 1999
ASSEMBLY
The New Hanover County Board of Commissioners held a joint meeting with the New
Hanover County Board of Education on Tuesday, December 14, 1999, at 6:45 p.m. in the Hoggard
High School Media Center, 4305 Shipyard Boulevard, Wilmington, North Carolina.
Members present were Commissioner Buzz Birzenieks; Commissioner Ted Davis, Jr;
Commissioner Charles R. Howell; Vice-Chairman Robert G. Greer; Chairman William A. Caster;
County Manager, Allen O’Neal; County Attorney, Wanda M. Copley; and Clerk to the Board, Lucie
F. Harrell.
Members from the Board of Education were: Chairman Edward B. Higgins; Vice-Chairman
Donald S. Hayes; Steve M. Bilzi; Oscar A. Graham; Debbie Keck; Andy Wells; Nancy Wigley;
Superintendent of Schools, Dr. John Morris, Jr.; School Attorney, Stacey Fuller; and Administrative
Secretary, Lois Basiliere.
Chairman Caster and Chairman Higgins called their respective boards to order.
Chairman Higgins recognized Dwight Anderson, Principal of Hoggard High School, and he
expressed appreciation to him for allowing the joint meeting to be held in the Media Center.
Mr. Anderson welcomed both boards to the Hoggard High School Campus.
Chairman Caster reported on attending a Leadership North Carolina Workshop held in
Charlotte, North Carolina, and stated this session focused on educational topics, particularly on the
need to provide character education and control violence in schools. Chairman Caster said while
touring an elementary school, middle school, and high school in Charlotte, he noticed that each school
had an on-site community representative and corporate sponsor. He also noted that many of the new
programs being offered to students were already being implemented in New Hanover County
Schools. He complimented the Board of Education and Staff for offering a progressive curriculum
to students, which made him very proud of the New Hanover County School System.
Dr. Morris advised Chairman Caster that when community involvement is discussed later on
the agenda, corporate sponsorships and community representatives will be addressed.
TRANSFER OF PROPERTY DEED FROM THE NORTH CAROLINA LAND TRUST TO
THE NEW HANOVER COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
Attorney Camilla M. Herlevich, Director of the North Carolina Coastal Land Trust,
announced it was her pleasure to formally present the first deeded gift from the Coastal Land Trust
to the New Hanover County School System for approximately 12 acres of land located on 132 acres
in the middle of NorthChase. She advised that the land was to be used by teachers and students
attending Trask and Laney Schools as an educational resource to teach students to better understand
nature and recognize the need to protect their environment.
Chairman Higgins, on behalf of the Board of Education, expressed appreciation to the North
Carolina Land Trust for this generous gift and stated this donation will provide an opportunity for
students to have hands-on experience in observing nature and plants on an open natural tract of land.
The following topics were discussed by the Board of County Commissioners and Board of
Education:
TAXING AUTHORITY FOR SCHOOL BOARDS
Chairman Higgins reported that the North Carolina Association of School Boards performed
a survey last year to determine if local school boards would be in favor of levying a property tax to
fund schools and relieve County Commissioners of this obligation. Surveys have been performed in
the past with a majority of school boards being opposed to this idea; however, the results of a recent
survey indicated that approximately 73% of respondents were interested in providing some form of
taxing authority to school boards. As a result of these findings, District meetings were
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scheduled throughout the State with representatives from the North Carolina Association of School
Boards discussing taxing authority. In concluding the meetings, a proposed resolution was presented
to local school boards for consideration and adoption.
Chairman Higgins advised that enabling legislation will be required for taxing authority to be
granted. A number of items will have to be addressed such as a county’s bond indebtedness,
distribution of the sales tax, etc. If a school board decides to support taxing authority, it will take five
to seven years before the tax authority can be transferred to the local board.
In closing, Chairman Higgins reported that North Carolina is unique because it is one of four
states where school boards have no taxing authority. Some states have a combination of taxing
authority and county funding. A majority of states with taxing authority are responsible for the
collection of the property tax. A major concern is whether the property tax will increase if taxing
authority is granted to school boards. Also, members of school boards would be subjected to being
voted out of office if the citizenry was not satisfied with the tax rate or use of school funds. It is
important for everyone to understand that taxing authority for school boards is in the early stage of
discussion.
Chairman Caster reported that the N. C. Association of County Commissioners had not
rendered a decision on this issue. He stressed the importance of this item being thoroughly discussed
with input from the public before any decision is made.
Commissioner Birzenieks strongly objected to taxing authority for school boards. He
expressed concern for removing the focus from quality education to concern about increasing or
decreasing the school property tax rate. He said that many candidates will run for office based on a
promise to reduce the tax rate.
Dr. Morris advised that accountability would be the key issue, and stated if taxing authority
is granted, school boards will have to be accountable on how tax dollars are spent for the operation
and quality of education provided by a school system.
Vice-Chairman Hayes said that he was glad North Carolina was unique with checks and
balances related to how school funds are expended. In other states where taxing authority is granted,
the sole platform for a candidate is whether the school property tax will increase or decrease. He
noted that a good working relationship exists between the Board of County Commissioners and the
Board of Education which, in his opinion, provides an accountable system.
Ms. Nancy Wigley stated that it was frustrating to see unmet school needs with the inability
of the local school board to fund these needs. Every year the Finance Committee submits a funding
request that is reduced by the Board of County Commissioners. She said if taxing authority is granted
to school boards, it may be possible to more effectively address the needs of the schools. She
recommended a complete study of taxing authority by the Board of Education so the right decision
can be made regarding this matter.
Mr. Oscar Graham agreed with Ms. Wiggley and stated that serving as past Chairman of the
School Finance Committee for two years and identifying definite needs, it was frustrating to have no
control of funding for these items. The Board of County Commissioners have worked with the Board
of Education, but there are other county needs that have not been met. He also suggested a complete
review of taxing authority before the Board of Education renders a decision.
Vice-Chairman Greer advised that the N. C. Association of County Commissioners for the
past two years has tried to obtain a 1-cent local option sales tax to help counties provide more
funding to schools; however, the N. C. General Assembly is not in favor of increasing taxes.
Chairman Caster expressed appreciation to the members of the Board of Education for their
comments.
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PRESENTATION ON ABC PROGRAM
Dr. Norman Shearin, Deputy Superintendent of Schools, reported that in 1994-95 the ABC’s
Program was started for the purpose of requiring more accountability in schools and providing a
method for measuring success. The acronym ABC’s is defined as follows: A for accountability; B for
basics; and C for control. At the National Governor’s Conference this year, North Carolina was one
of two states in the nation recognized for their accountability program. The other state was Texas.
Currently, North Carolina and Texas are comparing methods and trying to improve on the program.
Accountability standards are intended to respond to the student’s academic needs, the parents desire
for performance by students, and community expectations. This is accomplished by a plan that has
to be adopted by each school board with the following requirements:
1.Improve student achievement and increase the number of students performing on grade level.
Grade levels are determined by dividing test scores into Level 1, Level 2, Level 3, and Level
4. A score of Level 3 and above means the student is performing on grade level or above.
2.Focus intervention is provided to students performing below grade level to eliminate social
promotions.
3.High expectations are established for teachers, which result in high student achievement.
4.Gateways have been established and are used three different times during the 12 years of
school. A gateway means that if a student does not perform at or above grade level, that
student will not be promoted.
5.The first gateway occurs in Grade 3 through a test comprised of reading and mathematics
skills. The student must perform at Grade Level 3 or 4 to be promoted.
Dr. Morris pointed out that 90% of the students enrolled in the Pre-K Program, which was
started five years ago, pass the first gateway in Grade 3. He stated this program has been
quite successful, and he noted that further discussion is being held on expanding this program
to enroll more students.
6.The second gateway occurs in Grade 5 and the students are tested in reading, mathematics,
and writing skills. Students who do not function at grade level will receive intervention and
assistance to develop their writing skills. The principals and teachers will use locally
developed and scored writing samples during Grade 5 to determine whether these students
have made adequate progress to be promoted to Grade 6.
7.The third gateway occurs in Grade 8 and the students are tested in mathematics, reading and
writing. This is a critical point. The student cannot be promoted to attend high school at this
point if he or she is not functioning at grade level or above. Any students failing to meet
grade level will be provided intervention and assistance to develop the needed skills.
8.The fourth gateway is an exit examination administered in Grade 11. This testing is
comprised of a computer skills test, comprehension, retention, problem solving, using
numbers, processing information, reading, English, grammar, and mathematics. The student
must pass this test to graduate from High School.
In concluding the presentation, Dr. Shearin stated that the purpose of the ABC’s Program is
not to hold back students, but to provide safeguards for students through multiple testing so they can
reach grade level performance.
Dr. John Morris commented on the quality of education improving in New Hanover County
and stated that Hoggard High School students competed and won in the Academic Competition for
the Science and Mathematics category. Also, the Gregory Magnet School placed exceptionally well
in the National Science Competition. Dr. Morris emphasized the importance of the Pre-K School
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Program and the required testing to insure that students will receive the necessary intervention to
function at grade level or above.
COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN SCHOOLS
Mr. Jerry Randall, Director of Communities and Schools, reported on the efforts being made
to involve the community and agencies in the school system. He presented a notebook listing the
agencies and programs that assist students so they will not be expelled or become a school dropout.
He advised that people are working throughout the community to shelter abused students or provide
rehabilitation to students involved with drugs. Mr. Randall stated that a majority of citizens are not
aware of the contributions being made by people within the community.
Ms. Diane Avery, Community Schools Director, said that every school has some type of
corporate partnership for various programs. Companies such as General Electric, First Union Bank,
Carolina Power & Light Company, and BellSouth contribute time and money to these programs.
These organizations are a tremendous resource for the New Hanover County School System.
Chairman Caster suggested making the public aware of these programs and types of corporate
partnerships.
Superintendent Morris responded that he was seriously thinking of creating a marketing
position to assist the New Hanover School System with informing people about the quality of
education received in our area. The programs being broadcast over the Television Learning Network
are an outstanding example of where a studio has become a lab for students to produce 10 hours of
programs per week for the network. This arrangement provides students with marketable skills.
DISCUSSION OF PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF VETERANS PARK
Project Engineer, Greg Thompson, reported that New Hanover County has entered into a
contract with an architect to prepare a design plan for the development of an athletic/park complex
at Veterans Park. Currently, no funding has been budgeted in FY 1999-2000 to carrying out this
work.
Chairman Higgins advised that a high school and middle school with associated athletic fields
will be completed and ready to open at Veterans Park by 2001. He asked if the County would have
its fields completed by that date so practice fields will be available for the school teams.
Chairman Caster responded that a budget retreat will be scheduled by the Board of County
Commissioners to prepare the FY 2000-2001 budget, at which time the Veterans Park athletic/park
complex will be discussed.
Dr. Shearin stressed the importance of coordinating these efforts so money can be saved for
both the County and School System. He also emphasized the importance of completing the athletic
fields within the specified time frame to accommodate 25 more teams.
DISCUSSION OF TEACHER SHORTAGE IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA AND
NEW HANOVER COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM
Superintendent Morris reported on the existing teacher shortage throughout the State and
nation and stated that all students graduating next year from every school of education in the State
of North Carolina can be absorbed in the Winston-Salem and Charlotte/Mecklenburg School Systems.
Ms. Sandra McClain, Assistant Superintendent of Personnel, reported that a shortage of
teachers in math, science, and the exceptional children category does exist in the New Hanover
County School System. Recruitment of teachers is being made to all regions of the country, and the
School System just submitted a request to the State of North Carolina for the New Hanover County
School System to be considered a critical shortage area. School systems have to compete for
graduates to accept teaching positions. Areas with the highest salaries usually succeed in filling their
positions. In South Carolina, Georgia, and Tennessee, a beginning teacher starts at a salary of
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$30,000 plus. In North Carolina, the starting salary is $23,010 based upon the State Salary Schedule
that cannot be controlled by local school systems. In order to compensate for this salary difference,
the Personnel Department petitions the New Hanover County Board of Education for teacher
supplements.
Discussion was held on the supplements paid to teachers in New Hanover County. Ms.
McClain advised that the supplement in New Hanover County is currently $2,500. In the
Charlotte/Mecklenburg area, the supplement starts at $3,000 based upon a percentage of salary.
Ms. McClain commented on difficulty in recruiting minorities and stated the Personnel
Department makes an effort to contact historically black educational institutions. She said the State
provides several alternatives and incentives to assist schools with recruiting minorities.
Commissioner Birzenieks expressed concern for the number of teachers who leave the
teaching profession or resign. He asked if any specific reasons had been identified.
Ms. McClain advised that after reviewing exit interviews, five major reasons have been given:
Relocating because of spouses
Family responsibilities
Lack of administrative support
Lack of support for discipline in schools
The need to pursue another profession
Mr. Hayes said after teaching in the school system for a number of years, he feels that many
teachers do not feel they receive enough support from the administration. They also feel they should
be involved in the decision-making process regarding discipline. He noted that salary was not the
only reason why teachers resign and stated, in his opinion, the Board of Education should address this
issue.
Dr. Morris spoke on meeting with the local chapter of the North Carolina Association of
Educators and stated after discussing the morale of teachers, this group conducted a survey in the
New Hanover County School System. One of the highest scores on the survey was the support
received from administrators. This proves that morale in the New Hanover County School System
is not bad, but the problem is more complicated than salary. Teachers are faced with managing
children in the classroom that were institutionalized in the past. Today, when a teacher or
administrative official calls home to discuss a discipline or performance problem with a student, it is
not uncommon for the parent to become irrate and file a lawsuit, which places a great deal of stress
on the teacher and school officials. If litigation continues to increase, the New Hanover County
School System will have to hire a full-time attorney.
A lengthy discussion was held on courses being taught in the classrooms. Mr. Wells stated
with changes occurring so rapidly in the work place, teachers should carefully abandon some topics
that have been traditionally taught.
Dr. Morris agreed with Mr. Wells and advised that the current trend is toward teaching what
is more essential than what is nice to know. In the United States, the curriculum is much broader
than in other counties. For example, many countries will focus on 20 objectives in mathematics that
will provide the student with the ability to focus on all other areas of mathematics. In the United
States, the student focuses on 78 objectives in mathematics, which are not absolutely necessary.
These are areas that are currently being explored and will change traditional teaching in the
classroom. He said with technology changing daily, it is imperative to focus on courses that will
prepare students for the future.
DISCUSSION OF THE Y2K
Dr. Morris said on Sunday, January 2, 2000, principals and maintenance staff will be in each
school to be sure that all systems are working. He asked if school officials should contact the
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Emergency Management Director to be sure generators are working if power or other systems should
fail to function.
County Engineer Greg Thompson advised that the generator contract was in place to
accommodate the needs of the school system.
DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENT OF SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE TO THE
HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION
Chairman Higgins reported that he had checked into the need to appoint a representative from
the Board of Education to serve on the Human Relations Commission. He advised that Ms. Nancy
Wigley had volunteered to serve and stated that she will be appointed as the representative at the next
Board of Education meeting.
DISCUSSION OF HEAD START PROGRAM IN NORTH CAROLINA
Chairman Caster referenced an article in USA Today reporting that the Head Start Program
was not working. He said with the amount of money being spent in the State of North Carolina on
this program, everyone should be assured that Head Start is producing successful results.
NEXT JOINT MEETING SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 30, 2000 AT JOHNSON
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
After discussion of the joint meetings being beneficial, it was the consensus of both boards
to schedule the next meeting on Thursday, March 30, 2000, at Johnson Elementary School beginning
with dinner at 6:00 p.m. followed by the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Caster and Chairman Higgins adjourned their respective boards at 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Lucie F. Harrell
Clerk to the Board