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NEW HANOVER COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERSBOOK 25
WORK SESSION WITH BOARD OF EDUCATION, JANUARY 15, 1997PAGE 758
ASSEMBLY
The New Hanover County Board of Commissioners held a Work
Session with the Board of Education on Wednesday, January 15, 1997,
at 7:00 P.M. in the School Administration Building Conference Room,
1802 South 15th Street, Wilmington, North Carolina.
Members present were: Commissioners Buzz Birzenieks, Ted
Davis, Jr.; Charles R. Howell, Vice-Chairman William A. Caster;
Chairman Robert G. Greer; County Manager, Allen O'Neal; County
Attorney, Wanda M. Copley; and Clerk to the Board, Lucie F.
Harrell.
Members present from the Board of Education were: Chairman
Charles M. Lineberry, Jr.; Janice Cavenaugh; Oscar Graham; Donald
S. Hayes; Edward B. Higgins; Debbie Keck; Nancy Wigley; and
Superintendent of Schools, Dr. Dale Martin.
Chairman Lineberry expressed appreciation to the Board of
County Commissioners for being willing to schedule a joint meeting
to discuss school issues, and he called the Board of Education to
order.
Chairman Greer called the Board of County Commissioners to
order.
Dr. Martin reported that he had worked with Chairman
Lineberry, Commissioner Caster and County Manager O'Neal in
preparing the agenda for the meeting. He invited the Commissioners
to feel free to ask questions at any time.
STATUS REPORT ON CURRENT ACTIVITIES OF THE NEW HANOVER COUNTY
SCHOOL DISTRICT
School District Recognition Awards
Ms. Diane Avery, Director of School Community Relations,
presented a list of awards received by students, teachers,
administrators, and employees. Also, a fact sheet was presented
reflecting the student population; number of schools; number of
employees; teaching salaries; classroom size; dropout rate;
financial information; test scores; scholarships, financial aid;
and community involvement.
Dr. Martin advised the purpose of the fact sheet was to
provide an overall picture of the New Hanover County School
District at a glance. He advised there were many outstanding
students who had won prestigious scholarships, such as Scott
Bayzel, a senior at Hoggard High School, who was offered three
scholarships and finally decided to attend Wake Forest University.
He reported that students and employees who receive awards are
recognized at regular meetings of the Board of Education.
Discussion of the "Quality in the Classroom" Program
Dr. Martin reported the New Hanover County School District,
along with six other districts, was selected three years ago as a
pilot site by the North Carolina Business and Industry Council to
participate in a program entitled, "Quality in the Classroom". The
School District has received grants of approximately $150,000
annually to implement the program. He requested Dr. Shirley Prince
to present a video tape on the components and purpose of the
program.
Dr. Prince presented a video explaining "Quality in the
Classroom" and advised that 450 teachers were participating in the
two-year training program. The purpose of the program is to train
teachers on all educational levels to use innovative teaching
techniques to develop student awareness of the world around them
with incorporation of the traditional basics such as reading,
writing, and math from kindergarten through high school. By using
a team approach with hands on tasks, children are given the
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opportunity to move to different learning centers within the same
room. Each learning center represents a different aspect of the
day's lesson. Each team begins by reading about the subject from
relevant literature. After the teams explore the individual
components, the big picture of today's lesson is stressed. This
provides students with a well-rounded understanding of the subject.
Seventh graders at Trask Middle School are learning critical
thinking skills in Language Arts through a process where students
learn to think by responding to questions. Ground rules are in
place to keep discussions succinct and lively. Questions and
comments are generated by the students with group discussion and
breakout sessions. Students are given an opportunity to see
different sides of the same story. In this classroom setting,
there are no wrong answers, which creates an environment for
expression, understanding, and the cultivation of different ideas.
At Lakeside High School, teachers eliminate the boring lecture
aspect of education. With use of the fish bone diagram, the class
is learning the detailed analysis of literary works. Every story
or poem is carefully read and critiqued resulting in a firmer grasp
of the method and style of the writer. At Hoggard High School,
world history students use the fish bone diagram by breaking down
historical events into fine parts. The students better understand
and retain the concepts in comparison to the standard memorization
process. At the Mary C. Williams Elementary School, the
understanding and application of basic geometric principles are
made easy by using the team approach to provide students with a
firm grasp of the subject as well as generate enthusiasm. As each
group tackles a particular task, the teacher can assist individual
students one-on-one and at the same time use basic applications
with team solving techniques. These innovations in education make
New Hanover County Schools a model system throughout the State.
Dedicated and creative teachers are striving to provide students of
all ages the necessary tools to lead educated, informed and
productive lives.
Dr. Martin reported the quality education program was being
more generally accepted throughout the State with twenty-six school
districts participating in the program. After attending a
conference in Wilson, N. C., thirteen school districts have begun
to share different techniques and the methods being utilized.
Commissioner Birzenieks commented on being deeply interested
in the quality education initiative and asked the following
questions with responses from Dr. Martin and Dr. Prince:
(1)What type of initiatives are being used by the School
District, the Juran or Deming?
Response: The Deming and William Glasser initiatives are
being used. The Deming technique applies to the
business/operation of schools, and the Glasser technique
applies to the educational setting. Dr. Glasser, a
psychiatrist in California, has written books about quality
schools and the quality school teacher. Also, the Malcolm
Baldridge criteria was applied along with the Deming and
Glasser techniques.
(2)Is there a formal organization structured for the quality
initiative such as a steering committee or team?
Response: A Senior Quality Council began the quality
education effort. This group has been involved in training
and the methods used to implement the program across the
school districts. A meeting had been scheduled for Thursday,
and the agenda will address re-designing the Senior Quality
Council with expansion of the group for a broader
representation to begin monitoring the strategic gains.
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(3)Will all teachers receive training in the quality initiative,
and if so, who will be in the classroom during the training
hours?
Response: All teachers will attend a two-year training
program. Each teacher will be required to be out of the
classroom 2 1/2 days during the school year with the use of
substitute teachers during this time. Teachers will complete
the remaining training during the summer months or after
school.
(4)How will the success of the quality initiative be measured?
Response: When submitting an application for the Malcolm
Baldridge program, the New Hanover County School District was
criticized for not being able to show the success of staff
development to actual student achievement. Since that time,
the School District has worked with Dr. Al Lerch to establish
a tracking process of the teachers participating in the
quality education program to determine if the students are
actually performing. This process will enable the School
District to evaluate the success of staff development.
Discussion was held on the awards and special recognition of
school districts participating in the quality education program.
Dr. Martin stressed the importance of everyone understanding that
staff development was the purpose for participating in the program,
not winning awards. He reported most school districts are ahead in
instruction and behind in business practices. One advantage during
the application process was an awareness of the need to align the
Finance Department, Operations Department, and Personnel Department
with instructional practices in relationship to quality classes.
In his opinion, the philosophy of education in New Hanover County
is continuous improvement in the quality of education. This idea
must be built on a long-term commitment and data must be gathered
to see if the quality of education continues to improve. All
measures are being aligned in relationship to the idea of
continuous improvement and knowing whether we are a stable or
unstable school system. The ABC accountability enacted by the
State has been easier for New Hanover County teachers because of
the quality education program. Also, the School District has tried
to approach this program in an economical manner by training staff
to perform the necessary training in lieu of bringing in outside
trainers. He commented on the need to increase teachers salaries
and stated the question to be asked is whether teachers should
receive salary increases continuing to do the same thing, or as
salaries increase, should there be additional expectations of
teachers? In his opinion, additional expectations should be
required. Another issue to consider is lengthening the school year
for teachers only so more time can be provided to work on staff
development. This process would avoid teachers having to attend
training sessions after school hours. Many teachers are concerned
about leaving the classroom during the day because research has
proven that substitute teachers are for custodial purposes, which
is not beneficial to the students.
Ms. Janice Cavenaugh reported the Board of Education was very
supportive of the quality education movement. She advised a major
problem involving this effort will be parents because they are
accustomed to individual achievement, individual recognition, and
individual work ethics. Parents are not familiar with their
children working in teams or groups. One primary reason for
initiating the quality effort is that businesses and large
corporations have shown an interest in hiring individuals with the
ability to work compatibly in a group toward a common goal in lieu
of individual achievements. The Board of Education feels this type
of education should be provided to students.
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Commissioner Birzenieks reported the quality initiative will
require a change on the part of managers and administrators in the
operation of the School District as well as a change on the part of
teachers. He stated that being data driven was important, but
emphasized the fact that any program must be administered with
heart and soul, which means that caring is a top priority.
Vice-Chairman Caster stressed the importance of making a long-
term commitment to the quality initiative if the program is to
succeed. He commented on the team that was administered the SAT
test and stated it will be interesting to see the test results.
Report on Hurricane Damage
Mr. Bill Hance reported the total insurance claims filed as a
result of Hurricane Fran were $1,062,910. Approximately $500,000
of insurance claims have been approved with $100,000 of funding
received from FEMA for a total of $384,000 in outstanding claims.
FEMA initially paid for debris removal and emergency labor. The
remaining funds will not be released until reimbursements have been
received from insurance companies.
Discussion was held on the need to purchase a high-powered
generator for the food service freezer because of the large amount
of food lost during Hurricane Fran. Mr. Hance reported the School
District was in the process of purchasing a freezer.
County Manager O'Neal complimented the School Administrative
Staff for the cooperation shown during Hurricane Fran and reported
the School System was an integral part of the emergency process
during both hurricanes. He advised that after a review of the
emergency procedures, Staff feels it is important for the County
and School System to work more closely in the design and planning
of new schools since many of these facilities will serve as
shelters during emergencies.
Discussion was held on the problems that were experienced in
the school shelters. Ms. Cavenaugh expressed concern for no
electricity in many of the shelters and for the abuse of school
facilities by the inhabitants. She urged the Commissioners to be
sure that generators were provided to each shelter in order to
protect the public health and safety of persons staying in the
shelters.
Dr. Martin complimented the Director of Emergency Management,
Dan Summers, for closing schools in a timely manner and stated
without this direction, some lives could have been lost.
Report on New Construction
Mr. Mark Strickland reported the School District was currently
in the process of constructing the following new elementary schools
with each school being approximately 60,000 square feet in size
with a capacity to serve 535 students.
(1)Eaton Elementary School located on Gordon Road.
(2)Codington Elementary School located on Carolina Beach Road.
(3)The new Winter Park Elementary School located on Holly Tree
Extension.
Dr. Martin advised that Eaton Elementary School was a site
where the School District had purchased additional land for a
middle school and common-use park area between New Hanover County
and the School District.
Chairman Greer commented on the large tract of land purchased
beyond Monkey Junction and recommended implementing a joint effort
in developing a park complex that could be used by the schools and
community.
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The following key renovation projects were presented:
(1)Gregory Elementary School: Classroom and administration
additions plus a new media center will be completed by August
1997.
(2)Hoggard High School: A science addition was completed in
December 1996 consisting of four advanced chemistry labs and
one computer lab. A new media center addition is under
construction and should be completed by March 1997.
(3)Laney High School: A new cultural arts addition is being
constructed consisting of two art rooms, a music room, a
band/orchestra room, a dance room, and a teaching/technical
theater. This project will be completed in April 1997.
(4)New Hanover High School: The first floor renovation of
Brodgen Hall has been completed with work to begin on the
second floor. New bleachers have been purchased and many
seats have been replaced.
(5)Wrightsboro Elementary School: A new classroom addition and
cafeteria/kitchen are being constructed. The old auditorium
is being renovated into a media center and first floor
additions are being made to the building. These renovations
will allow for the computer lab to be placed on the first
floor.
The following minor renovation projects were presented:
(1)Alderman and Bellamy Elementary Schools: Paving and traffic
improvements are being made to assist with parking.
(2)Blair Elementary School: Two classroom additions have been
completed with renovation of restrooms.
(3)Noble Middle School: Interior renovations are being planned
for the restrooms.
(4)Ogden Elementary School: A cafeteria expansion has been
completed.
(5)Roland-Grise and Virgo Middle Schools: ADA modifications are
being performed to include ramps and the addition of elevators
to access the upper floors.
(6)Williston Middle School: The roof and windows are being
replaced as well as bathroom modifications. In the future,
other facilities will be modified.
Discussion was held on the importance of contractors being
responsible for correcting items during the warranty period. Mr.
Hance advised that Staff had been working diligently to resolve
problems before accepting the finished product. He stated since
Hurricane Fran, it had been difficult to obtain contractors for
small projects.
Dr. Martin assured the Board of County Commissioners that
funds allocated for each school had been spent as appropriated with
no use of funds for other purposes.
A lengthy discussion was held on school maintenance. Chairman
Greer expressed concern for the lack of school maintenance in the
past which had created costly repairs, and he urged the Board of
Education to establish a stable maintenance program for daily
cleaning and maintenance of school facilities.
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Vice-Chairman Caster agreed with Chairman Greer's remarks and
emphasized the importance of establishing a maintenance program
using the same people to take care of the buildings.
Comparison of School Districts Report
Dr. Al Lerch presented a comparison report on the fifteen
largest school districts. Statistics were presented reflecting
areas of improvement and areas that need to be improved. Reading,
math, and writing scores have shown improvement annually from
Grades 3-8 and the magnet schools continue to be successful. SAT
scores have improved, but the number of students preparing to
attend a higher educational facility has decreased. The attendance
and dropout rates are not acceptable, and there is grave concern
for the number of students graduating with certificates instead of
diplomas.
A lengthy discussion was held on student employment and its
impact on student attendance and the dropout rate. Dr. Martin
stated many students work 20 to 40 hours a week which greatly
influences student attendance figures. He recommended trying to
establish an agreement with local businesses to limit high school
students from working more than 20 hours per week.
Mr. Oscar Graham emphasized the importance of including more
vocational training courses in the school curriculum so that
students will be given an opportunity to learn a skill and live
more productive lives.
Discussion was held on the social problems being experienced
by students at home and the impact of these issues on student
performance. Dr. Martin reported that New Hanover County has the
second highest juvenile crime rate in the State. The County ranks
first in the State with the number of children placed in foster
care. Also, since State regulations were changed in the early
90's, children that were institutionalized are now being placed in
public schools. With these factors and the disparity between the
wealthy and poor families living in New Hanover County, student
performance has been negatively impacted.
In summary, Dr. Martin reported many improvements have been
made in the quality of education; however, a problem of concern is
the 65% of the students who either dropout of school or receive
certificates instead high school diplomas.
Plans For Use of State Bond Money
Mr. Hance presented a list of plans for use of the $17.5
million received from State bond money. A majority of the funds
will be used to purchase land, replace roofs on twenty-six school
buildings, renovate toilets and restrooms, and install costly ADA
renovations. He stressed the importance of everyone understanding
that huge sums of money are needed to repair older school
facilities.
Discussion was held on the need to purchase additional land
for new schools with continued growth in the population. Chairman
Greer requested the Board of Education to consider renovating older
schools in the City in lieu of purchasing new sites in the County.
Mr. Ed Higgins agreed with Chairman Greer and stated many
local residents feel the older schools are historic structures. He
reported some school districts throughout the State have demolished
old buildings and constructed new schools on the same site.
Dr. Martin reported on the difficulty experienced when trying
to work with the City of Wilmington on any project. He stated he
would not be opposed to renovating schools in the City if the needs
of the School District were met. With population growth occurring
much faster in the County than in the City, new schools will have
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to be located further out in the unincorporated areas to meet these
demands.
Discussion was held on State regulations limiting school
buildings to one level. County Manager O'Neal commented on the
lack of land in New Hanover County and recommended petitioning the
General Assembly to provide a waiver to New Hanover County so
schools can be constructed on more than one level.
Vice-Chairman Caster reported new schools and renovations
would not solve the problems occurring in local schools. He
expressed concern for the lack of morals and behavior by the
students and stated until the community addresses these issues, no
amount of new school facilities will create a good learning
environment. He explained that he had no quick solutions to the
social problems but felt that bond issues would not continue to
pass if discipline was not restored in the classroom.
Chairman Greer recommended including more vocational courses
in the school curriculum so students will have a choice of taking
college preparatory courses or vocational education. At a certain
point, each student should decide on which curriculum to select and
move in that direction. The students who are not interested in a
curriculum and constantly destroy school property or create
discipline problems in the classroom should be removed from school.
In his opinion, allowing classroom studies to be destroyed by
destructive behavior is not fair to the students who are interested
in learning and obtaining a good education.
Dr. Martin commented on Hoggard High School with an enrollment
of 2,200 pupils and advised this high school was constructed to
handle a capacity of 1,600 students. He stated with this type of
overcrowding, problems will exist among teenage students. The
community is aware of the need for additional school buildings, but
the citizens will have to decide if they are willing to pay the
price. Without additional space, shifts will have to be
implemented in the middle schools and high schools.
Discussion of Future Bond Referendum
County Manager O'Neal presented a schedule for holding a
school bond referendum on May 6, 1997. In order to comply with the
time constraints, the Board of Education will be required to adopt
a resolution of its intent prior to February 17, 1997.
Commissioner Birzenieks emphasized the importance of moving
forward with another school bond issue to address school needs. He
advised that Wake County had a successful $250 million school bond
issue because of advance research and planning before presenting
the issue to the public. A firm was hired to perform a public
opinion survey to identify the needs and determine if the community
was willing to support a $250 million bond issue or a $100 million
bond issue. He requested the Commissioners to move forward with
hiring a firm to determine these facts before preparing the bond
issue.
Discussion was held on preparing information that would define
the school needs with a projected cost for each item. Commissioner
Davis commented on the importance of having these figures in place
when a firm is hired to perform the public opinion survey. He,
also, stressed the importance of everyone understanding the major
issues facing New Hanover County, such as drainage and sewer
expansion, that could necessitate another bond issue. These needs
will be a determining factor in what the citizens will support.
Dr. Martin welcomed the idea of hiring a firm, but stated the
school needs were so far behind it would be difficult to decide
whether to present one large bond issue or two bond issues as
outlined in the five-year plan for New Hanover County Schools.
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ADJOURNMENT
Ms. Cavenaugh commented on enjoying the Work Session and
stated she felt many important issues were discussed openly with a
feeling of cooperation between the two boards.
Dr. Martin expressed appreciation to County Manager O'Neal for
his cooperative efforts in preparing past budgets. He, also,
expressed appreciation to the Board of County Commissioners for
attending the Work Session. He offered to provide any information
needed for the promotion of a school bond issue.
Chairman Greer, on behalf of the Board, expressed appreciation
to the Board of Education for scheduling the joint Work Session.
He stressed the importance of becoming a unified voice when
approaching the General Assembly about changing regulations
pertaining to classroom size and construction of one-story school
buildings. He offered to work with the Board of Education in
promoting these issues.
Chairman Greer adjourned the meeting at 10:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Lucie F. Harrell
Clerk to the Board