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ASSEMBLY
The New Hanover County Board of Commissioners held a Staff
Meeting on Thursday, January 12, 1995, at 8:45 A.M. in Room 501 of
the New Hanover County Administration Building, 320 Chestnut
street, Wilmington, North Carolina.
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Members present were: Commissioners Sandra Barone; William A.
Caster; William E.. Sisson, Jr.; Vice-Chairman E. L. Mathews, Jr.;
Chairman Robert G; Greer; County Manager, Allen O'Neal; County
Attorney, Wanda M. Copley; and Clerk to the Board, Lucie F.
Harrell.
Chairman Greer called the Staff Meeting to order.
Items on the Regular Agenda, Consent Agenda, and Water and
Sewer District Agenda were reviewed and discussed with no action
taken.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Greer adjourned the meeting at 10:10 A.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Clerk to the Board
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WORK SESSION TO HEAR A PRESENTATION ON FIRE SERVICES FOR THE
HIGHWAY 421 CORRIDOR, AND FUTURE FIRE SERVICES FOR THE
UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF NEW HANOVER COUNTY
ASSEMBLY
The New Hanover County Board of Commissioners held a Work
Session on Thursday, January 12, 1995, at 10:12 A.M. in Room 501 of
the New Hanover County Administration Building, 320 Chestnut
Street, Wilmington, North Carolina.
Members present were: Commissioners Sandra Barone; William A.
Caster; william E. Sisson, Jr.; vice-Chairman E. L. Mathews, Jr.;
Chairman Robert G. Greer; County Manager, Allen O'Neal; County
Attorney, Wanda M. Copley; and Clerk to the Board, Lucie F.
Harrell.
Chairman Greer called the Work Session to order and welcomed
everyone present.
commissioner Sisson, the Board's representative on the New
Hanover county Fire Commission, introduced the following members of
the Fire Commission that were able to attend the meeting: Mr. Gary
'Rowe, Mr. Roger Miller, and Mr. Jim Pittman. He reported Dennis
Pinho, Chairman of 'the Fire Commission, could not attend because of
a,severe cold.
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commissioner Sisson commented on the situation that occurred
with the North Wilmington Volunteer Fire Department and reported
the Fire Commission prepared a study to present an assessment of
the cost and justification for providing a paid fire protection
system to the industrial corridor on Highway 421 North. However,
during the study, the Fire commission found the report did not
address the interface with existing County Volunteer Fire
Departments, other emergency serv1ce functions, and the Building
Inspections/Fire Code Enforcement Division. For this reason, the
Fire Commission expanded the study into a concept toward expected
.needs of the fire service in New Hanover County for the next five
'years. He requested the Commissioners to keep in mind that the
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presentation is conceptual and that many details will have to be
worked out once a direction is established for fire service in New
Hanover County. He requested the Emergency Management Director,
Dan Summers, to begin the presentation.
PRESENTATION OF FIRE SERVICE CONCEPT
INTRODUCTION: Director Summers reported the purpose of the concept
is to provide fire protection to the Highway 421 North Corridor and
meet fire service demands that have occurred with rapid growth,
which has changed fire service in the County from a rural operation
to an urban operation.
The reasons for dissolution of the North Wilmington Volunteer
Fire Department were due to no neighborhood resources in the area;
financial malfeasance; minimal industry and provider interface;
unique fire fighting hazards, and transition from rural to
urban/industrial. Presently, the County has seven competent
Volunteer Fire Departments; one Fire Code Agency; eight
Communication sites (911 and seven departments); seven training
officers; one Fire commission Staff Liaison; and a Service area
responsibility composed of 214 hazardous materials sites, 24
billion pounds of hazardous materials, single family households,
miles of road, and acres of uninhabited forest and land.
The main item to be addressed is the development of a fire
service that will provide a consistent delivery system for the
unincorporated areas in New Hanover County. This concept is not an
anti-volunteer fire fighter issue, but development of a system that
will meet service demands as a result of growth, utilize the
efforts of the Volunteer Fire Fighters, who provide over 10 million
dollars worth of manpower services annually, through fostering the
volunteers'and providing career opportunities for local responders.
ASSESSMENT REPORT FOR THE HIGHWAY 421 NORTH CORRIDOR: This
industrial corridor can generally be classified as "high hazard"
with moderate potential for a fire or hazardous materials incident.
While this type of incident has not occurred, the potential is high
~nd there is great concern for the response time if a major
incident should occur. The study recommends the formation. of a
daily fire service with qualified and trained personnel to provide
a,quick response to an industrial incident any time during the day
or night. A fire inspector and fire suppression personnel should
be located in the area to build rapport and confidence with the
industries along the corridor.
Fire Service administration, suppression, prevention, code
enforcement, and pre-planning must become an integral part of the
large industrial structure to insure appropriate incident response
management.
In order to implement the proposed fire service, financial
resources and time will be needed. There should be a responsible
county Department with a paid Fire Service Administrator
responsible for implementing the program and coordinating fire
service in the county. It is felt that a temporary contractor
should be hired well in advance of implementing a program to have
written policies and procedures that will adhere to OSHA and fire
standards before hiring personnel. A facilities agreement with
Cape Industries must be negotiated. cape Industries has maintained
and secured the vacant building since dissolution of the North
wilmington Fire Department. The Cape has been most generous to the
County because they could have occupied the building as a training
facility. It is not known how ~uch longer they will allow the
building to remain vacant. Another major issue that must be
addressed is equipment and apparatus acquisition, which is costly
and will require personnel.
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During the process of developing
Corridor Fire Protection Plan, the Fire
County operation versus. a city operation
and cons:
the Highway 421 North
Commission did review a
with the following pros
CITY - Pro's
Quick start-up with paid fire fighters and equipment.
CITY - Con's
Nothing for County Volunteer Fire Departments to show for
investment.
COUNTY - Pro's
Investment in infrastructure.
Spin-offs for Volunteer Fire Departments leading to improved
services for all.
One stop shopping for the business/industry and citizen.
Minimal Cost Differences.
COUNTY - Con's
Start-up costs.
Re-structure.
Commission~r Sisson commented on a quicker start-up by,the
city, but reported the City'S proposal still requires the County to
.be,responsible for:purchasing the equipment.
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The current Fire Service Budget includes operational budgets
for the seven Volunteer Fire Departments and monies transferred to
general funds for support of the Forestry Program, the Emergency
Management Fund for clerical support, Fire Code Enforcement,
existing Debt Service on fire equipment, and the Radio/Tower
Improvement. The annual operating budget is approximately $1.3
million to operate the seven Volunteer Fire Departments and fund
the on-going projects. A 5% increase is estimated in growth.
The revenue requirements are as follows:
-Operational Budgets for the seven Volunteer Fire Departments.
-Operational Budget for Highway 421.
-Existing Debt Service and Radio/Tower Improvement Plan and
Re~structure of Fire Code Division (Fire Prevention Officer
III for '421~North).
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-Emergency Management Clerical Support.
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-Fire Administrator (50% General Fund/50% Fire Tax District
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-Facilities and Office Space have not been addressed.
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-Augment Volunteer Fire Departments with paid Personnel and
Pay Per Call.
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-Revenue Options: (1) No change from the current structure;
or (2) increasel~he fire tax, which is now 2.5 cents.
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The final recommendations of the study are as follows:
-Formal and physical re-structure.
-Relocation and remodeling of administration, clerical,
technical, conference and plan review, emergency operations,
and training/communications.
-Collect revenue to initiate services.
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-Hire a Fire Administrator.
-Re-structure the Fire Code.
-Hire new personnel for 421 North.
-Paid day time coverage for seven Volunteer Fire Departments.
-Pay Per Call for volunteers in the seven Volunteer Fire
Departments.
-structured Management and Volunteer Opportunities.
In summary, Director Summers emphasized the importance of
being sure that funding needs for the other seven Volunteer Fire
Departments are not negatively impacted by implementation,of the
plan for the 421 industrial corridor.
County Manager O'Neal presented an organizational chart of the
proposed restructure of the fire service showing the Fire Service
Administrator position and how this position correlates with the
Inspections Department, Fire Code Enforcement, the U. S. Highway
421 Corridor4and existing Volunteer Fire Departments.
Vice-Chairman Mathews inquired as to whether the proposed
concept would provide one paid person per station per Volunteer
Fire Department?
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.,.. Director Summers .reported two people would be a minimum and
three people would be more desirable because of absences due to
training, sickness, vacation, etc. He stressed the importance of
providing logistical support of a day time crew to enable the
chiefs of the Volunteer Fire Departments to carry out their duties
and responsibilities in a more effective and responsive manner.
Discussion was held on whether the citizens are volunteering
to serve as firemen. Mr. Gary Rowe reported winter Park Volunteer
Fire Department had been fortunate because many UNC-W students
volunteer to serve at this station; however, there is a large turn-
over in the personnel, and in his opinion, not as many people are
volunteering to serve. He reported as a volunteer holding a
regular job ,paid personnel is badly needed to reduce the amount of
time volunteers have to spend at the fire stations. He also
commented on the difficulty in recruiting volunteer firemen to
respond to a fire during work hours. He urged the Commissioners to
consider a pay per call and paid day time coverage system for the
seven Volunteer Fire Departments.
Mr. Roger Miller, a member of the New Hanover County Fire
commission, reported the plan presented is a concept and details
would have to be worked out; however, the Fire commission believes
the study does address the manner in which fire service should be
prov1ded for the unincorporated areas of the county and on the 421
North industrial corridor. If a hazardous waste incident should
occur, the County would not be ready to handle the situation. The
plan presented was prepared to be phased in gradually beginning
with the 421 North Corridor. The cost for coverage of this
corridor will not disappear whether the County's fire service is
expanded or whether the service is contracted with the city of
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wilmington. The Fire Commission feels a plan should be implemented
as soon as possible for this industrial corridor.
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Discussion was held on the Fire Service District and the funds
that will be required to cover the 421 North Corridor. Mr. Jim
Pittman, a member of the Fire Commission, commented on the majority
of the Fire District Tax being paid by people who do not live on
the 421 industrial corridor and asked how the County will be able
to justify implementing a plan for a full-time paid staff in this
district and not in the other fire districts?
commissioner Barone reported this type of plan will not work.
County Manager O'Neal reported the County collects the tax
from one Fire Service District and divides the money collected as
needed, by each Volunteer Fire Department. This means that the
wealth and burden are shared jointly by the residents living in the
,unincorporated areas of the County. The other option would be to
establish individual Fire Tax Districts with a tax levied for each
district according. to each district's needs.
commissioner Barone recommended allowing the industries to
participate in the cost of the fire service for the corridor.
Chairman Greer commented on the need to implement a plan for
the 421 North Corridor, but expressed concern for revamping the
entire system and- doubling the cost of fire protection in New
Hanover County to cover that corridor. He inquired as to whether
the Board wants to 'move in this direction.
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commissioner Sisson reported the Fire Commission chose to
present the concept for the entire system because of the rapid
tr~nsition that occurred from a rural to urban fire service.
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Chairman Greer recommended considering the following factors
before moving forward with the proposed concept:
(1) What will happen to fire service in the unincorporated
areas of the County with the proposed annexation by the
City of Wilmington?
(2) How much' money was allocated to the North Wilmington
Volunteer Department and where are those funds being used
currently?
(3) How much will the city charge the County to provide this
fire coverage to the 421 North Corridor?
A review of the County's cost versus the City'S cost for
contracting the fire service was held. It was concluded that the
costs were basically the same because the City's proposal is based
on the ,assumption that the County will provide the building for
housing the personnel and equipment as well as the utilities,
insurance, and maintenance of the structure.
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Chairman Greer, inquired as to the amount paid by industries on
the corridor to the city of Wilmington?
commissioner Sisson responded that many of industries are
small and do not contract with the City; however, Takeda does have
a:60ntract with the city,
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Chairman Greer reported, in his opinion,
information should~Be'presented in order for the
Commissioners to make an intelligent decision.
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A lengthy discussion was held on whether the County should go
to paid personnel for ",the Volunteer Fire Departments and the funds
i~volved with the 421qNorth Corridor plan. Further discussion was
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held on merging the City and County fire service. commissioner
sisson reported, in his opinion, a paid/volunteer service is the
most economical way to provide fire protection to the
unincorporated areas of the county.
COMMISSIONER BARONE EXCUSED FROM THE WORK SESSION
Commissioner Barone informed the Board that she would have to
be excused from the Work Session because of a prior commitment;
however, she felt more time was needed to study the material
presented and recommended deferring action until both the County
and City proposals can be thoroughly reviewed.
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commissioner Barone was excused from the meeting at 11:45 A.M.
BREAK
Chairman Greer called a break from 11:45 until 11:55 A.M.
After further discussion, Chairman Greer reported if some of
the industries on the 421 industrial corridor already have
contracts with the City of Wilmington and pay the City for these
services, in his opinion, these industries would be willing to pay
the County. He recommended approaching the industries in the area
to see if they are willing to participate in paying for a 24-hour
fire service to help defray the cost to the County.
Commissioner sisson reported he felt the response would be
negative since all the industries are in the Fire Service District
and pay the 2.5 cents Fire Tax. He reminded the Commissioners that
many of the companies are small and do not contract with the city.
County Manager O'Neal inquired as to whether the Fire
Commission should make the inquiries as requested by the Chairman.
commissioner sisson volunteered to make the inquiries.
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Discussion was held on the need to hire a Fire Administrator
as soon as possible to coordinate the existing fire service in New
Hanover County. County Manager O'Neal reported on the outstanding
job performed by Director Summers in working with the Fire
Commission to bring about an excellent volunteer fire service, but
stated an administrator is needed to allow Director Summers to
spend his time on emergency management.
commissioner sisson agreed with the County Manager and stated
the Director of Emergency Management cannot continue to function as
a Fire Coordinator and Director of Emergency Management.
Chairman Greer commented on the need to further discuss this
issue before hiring a Fire Administrator.
Consensus: After further discussion, it was the consensus of the
Board to request Commissioner sisson to contact each industry to
see if they would be willing to participate in paying for 24-hour
fire service on the 421 industrial corridor as outlined in the
$640,000 plan as proposed. Commissioner sisson was requested to
report back to the Board.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Greer expressed appreciation to the members of the
Fire Commission for the time and effort given to prepare the study,
and adjourned the meeting at 12:43 P.M.
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Respectfully submitted,
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Clerk to the Board