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MINUTES OF SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL WORK SESSION
MARCH 31, 1994
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ASSEMBLY
The New Hanover County Board of Commissioners held a Work
Session on Thursday, March 31, 1994, at 9 00 A M in Room 501 of
the New Hanover County Administration Building, 320 Chestnut
Street, Wilmington, North Carolina
Members present were Commissioners Sandra Barone; William A
Caster; William E Sisson, Jr ; Vice-Chairman E L Mathews, Jr ;
Chairman Robert G Greer; County Manager, Allen O'Neal; County
Attorney, Wanda P Copley; and Clerk to the Board, Lucie F
Harrell
Chairman Greer called the Work Session to order and welcomed
all persons present He announced the purpose of the meeting is to
discuss and hopefully find a solution to the solid waste disposal
problem in New Hanover County
County Manager O'Neal reported the memorandum from the
Assistance County Manager, Dave Weaver, was an excellent outline of
the major issues and costs that must be addressed before deciding
what type of County trash collection system to establish He
requested Assistant County Manager Weaver to discuss the memo and
staff recommendations
Chairman Greer complimented staff .for an excellent job in
preparing the memorandum outlining the options available, but
expressed concern for having to hear a lengthy presentation on how
solid waste disposal has become a problem, which in his opinion has
been discussed numerous times
After further discussion, it was agreed to proceed directly to
the recommendations proposed by staff
PRESENTATION OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS
Assistant County Manager, Dave Weaver, presented the following
options to fund the County solid waste operation
OPTION I continue the present county operation with a $28 per ton
tip fee and a $5 5 million tax subsidy
REQUESTED BUDGET FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
MANAGEMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 1994-95
EXPENDITURES
Administration
Recycling
WASTEC - Operation & Maintenance $4,987,145
Debt Service 3.833.195
$ 408,930
$ 353,098
$ 8,820,340
Landfill- Operation & Maintenance $1,117,884
Debt Service 609.452
$ 1.727.336
TOTAL
$11.309.704
REVENUES
Steam Sales
Electricity Sales
Scrap Tires
Scrap Metal
Tip Fee ($28 per ton)
Transfer from General Fund (7 1 cent on tax rate)
$ 315,000
$ 1,377,792
$ 170,000
$ 2,000
$ 3,900,000
$ 5.544.912
TOTAL
$11.309.704
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This option would require a subsidy of 7 1 cents on the tax
rate primarily because of the debt service on the WASTEC Facility
The figures presented are based upon the assumption that New
Hanover County will receive 125,000 tons of burnable trash during
the next fiscal year It is felt that an additional 20,000 tons of
trash could be burned in WASTEC each year, which would generate
additional revenue in the amount of $600,000 at a $28 per ton tip
fee However, as of this date, the state has not given final ----~
approval of a permit to accept trash from sources outside of New
Hanover County If a permit is received, the County will have to
schedule acceptance of tonnage at times that will not interfere
with the peak load capacity during the tourism season
Chairman Greer strongly objected to increasing the property
tax rate to subsidize the environmental operation and requested the
other Commissioners to express their opinions
commissioner Barone commented on the $4 million debt service
and reported she requested the Assistant County Manager to separate
the cost of operating the WASTEC Facility from the environmental
management fund The purpose for requesting these figures was to
compare the difference in the cost of operation with closing of the
WASTEC Facility and using only the landfill If the County's
landfill should become too expensive, the trash could be carried to
the Sampson County landfill In actuality, this has occurred for
the past six months with a major hauler carrying trash out of New
Hanover County to Sampson County She stated, for the record, this
is just an idea and she is not advocating this action In her
opinion, the County must decide if it should remain committed to
the WASTEC Facility, which will become more expensive, or if the
County needs to step back and look in another direction in order to
make an intelligent decision about the disposal of solid waste
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Chairman Greer commented on the County's commitment to the
WASTEC Facility and stated this would have been a good idea ten
years ago, but at the present time, he cannot support closing the
facility
OPTION II Use the tip fee only for WASTEC and subsidize the other
division with taxes
1994-95 REQUESTED BUDGET
Total Expenditures
$ 408,930
$1,727,336
$ 353.098
$2.489.364
Administration
Landfill
Recycling
This would require 3 2 cents on the tax rate to subsidize
Administration, Landfill, Recycling
1994-95 REQUESTED BUDGET
Net Expenditures
$8,820,340
(315,000)
11.377.792)
$7.127.548
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WASTEC expenditures
Steam Sales
Electric Sales
In order to fund WASTEC through the tip fee, the fee would
have to be increased to $54 per ton plus the 20,000 tons of
non-burnable materials that would have to be placed in the
landfill at a tip fee of $20 per ton
After a lengthy discussion on how to resolve this matter and
avoid increasing the property tax rate, Vice-Chairman Mathews
recommended establishing a collection system that will divide the
County into zones with bids being received and awarded for each
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zone If a hauler is awarded a bid for one zone that hauler would
not be allowed to bid on another zone
County Manager O'Neal reported residential waste
only 30% of the waste stream with the remaining 70% from
waste In his opinion, the haulers are concerned
proposed commercial system not the residential system
represents
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Chairman Greer inquired as to whether the County can operate
just the commercial portion?
Recycling Manager, Tim Cole, reported some municipalities in
Florida provide for commercial collection with the assignment of
territories to one or more haulers
Assistant County Attorney, Andrew Olsen, reported the cities
in Florida that provide for commercial collection with assigned
territories also provide for residential collection As of this
date, he is not aware of any cities or counties that perform only
commercial collection Most local governments perform both
residential and commercial, which is legally more acceptable
After further discussion, Chairman Greer reported the County
has no other choice but to go into the trash collection business
and contract out the service with the County performing the
billing
Mr Floyd Lucas, owner of Coastal Removal Service, inquired as
to why the County should go into the trash collection business?
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Chairman Greer stated in order keep the trash from going out
of New Hanover County, it may be necessary for the County to go
into the business
Mr Chris McKeithan, representing Waste Management, commented
on past meetings with the Commissioners where both the haulers and
County were satisfied with dividing the county into zones for
residential collection However, after meeting with staff
pertaining to commercial collection, the haulers have become
concerned about the tip fee being increased to $80 per ton If at
all possible, the tip fee should remain at an acceptable level to
avoid waste from being carried out of the County
Mr Lucas requested the Commissioners to consider franchising
the service to 20 local haulers which will reduce the size of units
and allow for removal of items from the waste stream, such as
batteries and bulky items that create maintenance problems for the
incinerator
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Chairman Greer expressed concern for the County having to
consider going into the trash collection business, but with the
County's commitment to WASTEC and more stringent federal and state
regulations, he feels there is no other choice As an elected
official, the Commissioners must do what is best for the citizens,
not just the Commissioners or the haulers Hopefully, a
franchising system can be developed to protect the haulers and
serve the citizens of the County
Chairman Greer requested direction from the Board as to how
commercial collection should be handled
commissioner Sisson reported the County could be divided into
zones, or the County could contract with a single hauler
Presently, it appears that commercial collection is basically
handled by two haulers Also, if the County should go to a
franchising system, it should be stipulated that as the County
grows, the zones will have to be changed to reflect the growth
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Mr Perry Whisnant, owner of Windfish Disposal, expressed
concern for the amount of money invested in his equipment and urged
the commissioners to allow all the haulers to participate in the
trash collection business so that small haulers will not be driven
out of business
Chairman Greer sympathized with Mr
Commissioners must protect the taxpayers
created by a major hauler carrying waste
Whisnant, but stated the
The existing problem was
out of New Hanover County
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Mr Jim Auten, representing Waste Industries, questioned how
the County could keep private businesses in New Hanover County from
contracting with haulers outside of the County for the provision of
commercial collection at a lower cost?
county Attorney copley stated if the system is fee based, this
type of situation cannot be controlled; however, if the system is
tax based, the haulers would be paying for the service and would
not desire to contract with an outside hauler
Mr McKeithan stated the haulers do not have a problem with
working out the plan as discussed at previous meetings and are
willing to cooperate with the County However, if the County
charges a tip fee at $80 per ton, businesses will contract with
outside haulers He also commented on the N C state statute
pertaining to user fees and stated if a customer is on a
subscription service and decides not to use the service, that
person is not required to pay the user fee
commissioner sisson reported this type of situation occurred
with the city of Wilmington An individual living within the city
Limits refused to pay the fee because he recycled his trash and had
no need for the service The Court ruled in favor of the city and /"\
determined that this individual would have to pay the fee even )
though the service was not used
BREAK
Chairman Greer called a break from 11 10 A M until 11 43 A M
Chairman Greer apologized for the length of the break and
stated during this period of time the Commissioners have reached a
general agreement; however, official action will have to be taken
at a regular meeting He reported during the past year, numerous
discussions have been held on increasing taxes, franchising, and
dividing the County into zones for implementation of a County
collection system The haulers are pleased with the proposed
residential system but are concerned about a loss of business for
the proposed commercial collection system since there is
legislation that has been introduced in Congress and a case is
pending in the U S Supreme Court pertaining to flow control, the
Commissioners feel these legal matters should be resolved before
implementing a trash collection system
The recommendation is as follows (1) allow the private
haulers to continue to provide residential and commercial
collections as currently being rendered; (2) raise the tip fee from
$25 per month to $30 per month effective July 1, 1994; and (3) pay
the remaining solid waste disposal costs for the next fiscal year
out of the undesignated fund balance This option will allow time
for the legality of flow control to be determined on the federal
level as well as provide time for the county to prepare a
collection system to be implemented by July 1, 1995, if the
disposal problem is not resolved at that time
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Vice-Chairman Mathews concurred with the recommendation and
emphasized the importance of resolving legal issues before
implementing a collection system
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commissioner sisson agreed to using the undesignated fund
balance for FY 1994-95 contingent upon having a plan of action
ready to implement by July 1, 1995, if the trash problem has not
been resolved
commissioner Caster inquired as to what will happen if the
Supreme Court allows counties to adopt a flow control ordinance?
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Deputy County Manager, Andrew J Atkinson, reported if
legislation is enacted to allow for flow control, the tip fee can
be adjusted at any time; however, if the County establishes a
collection system based on taxes, the taxes can not be adjusted
until the next fiscal year
Chairman Greer reported this recommendation will be discussed
and acted upon at the Commissioners' meeting scheduled for April 5,
1994
Director of Environmental Management, Ray Church, and John
Hubbard, Plant Manager of the WASTEC Facility reported on the
positive impact of this facility to New Hanover County Due to
incineration, 18 acres of costly landfill space have been saved
since 1984, and the facility will continue to save landfill space
for the next 22 years Figures and graphs were presented
reflecting the increase of trash burned at the incinerator
Currently, the boilers are burning efficiently due to
implementation of a preventive maintenance program and the
expertise of the Plant Operations Manager Staff feels that New
Hanover County is beginning to recover its dollars worth from this
facility
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DISCUSSION OF YARD WASTE PICKUP
Commissioner sisson reported that
collecting yard waste and requested
responsible for picking up yard waste
ordinance
some haulers are not
that every hauler be
according to the County
Director Church reported the County's ordinance allows 15% of
a truck load for yard waste; however, the haulers view this
percentage differently Some haulers pick up all yard waste placed
at the street, whereas other haulers pick up only one or two bags
The 15% allowed under the ordinance is a judgement call by the
haulers and is very difficult to enforce uniformly
commissioner Sisson recommended modifying the yard waste
ordinance to allow the tip floor personnel to be more lenient in
making the judgement call for acceptance of burnable yard waste
until the facility is nearing its capacity
Director Church reported no citations have been issued for
exceeding the 15%, and, in his opinion it will be up to the haulers
to see that yard waste is picked up
After discussion, it generally agreed by the haulers present
to pick up yard waste and the tip floor attendants are to continue
to be lenient in determining the 15% of yard waste per truck load
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Assistant County Manager Weaver requested the haulers to
inform the customers that the cap on yard waste was enacted by the
State, not the County
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Greer expressed appreciation to the haulers and staff
for their efforts and adjourned the Work Session at 12 05 P M
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Clerk to the Board
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