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Board Minutes – 10/12/2021
SPECIAL MEETING
New Hanover County Board of Elections
October 12, 2021
5:00 PM
ATTENDANCE
Members: Oliver Carter III, Chair
Derrick R. Miller, Secretary
Russ C. Bryan, Member
Lyana G. Hunter, Member
Bruce Kemp, Member
Staff: Rae Hunter-Havens, Executive Director
Caroline Dawkins, Deputy Director
Chris Tisbert, Election Systems Specialist
Joan Geiszler-Ludlum, Administrative Technician
Visitors: Sheryl Kelly, Assistant County Manager
Public Attendees – In Person: Loraine Buker, League of Women Voters – Lower Cape
Fear; Gail Collier; unreadable name; Julius Rothlein, NHC GOP;
Matthew Emborsky, NHC GOP; Mike Fox; Claudia Campese;
Elizabeth Richards; Susanne Werner, NHC DP; Susan Mulligan;
John Jaskey; Becky Jaskey; Matt Heiser; Matthew Morrissey.
Virtual attendees: Jeanette Koshar, AAUW; Mike (no last name); Thila Bell.
OPENING
Chair Carter called the meeting to order at 5:03 p.m. The New Hanover County Board of
Elections meeting was held in the Board of Elections office, Long Leaf Room, 1241A
Military Cutoff Road, Wilmington, NC. All members were present.
AGENDA
Member Kemp moved adoption of the agenda as submitted, second by Member Hunter.
Motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Chair Carter reminded the audience to silence their phones; thanked them for honoring
the County’s mask mandate; and notified the audience that the meeting is being recorded
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and live streamed.
Chair Carter called on the public in-person attendees for their comments or questions,
limited to two minutes each.
Elizabeth Richards asked when will the mask mandate be lifted? Chair Carter told her
that question is not within the jurisdiction of the Board of Elections.
Loraine Buker, League of Women Voters – Lower Cape Fear asked how observers who
are Unaffiliated may be appointed as observers, since there is no Unaffiliated
organization to make appointments. She was advised to reach out to the party chairs.
Director Hunter-Havens agreed to ask the State Board legal team for information on
options for Unaffiliated voters.
Mike Fox asked the Board to support a full forensic audit of the 2020 election. Chair
Carter distributed a copy of the statute addressing post-election audits and pointed out
that it charges the State Board of Elections with the process of auditing elections, and
there is no legal process for the county boards to authorize an audit.
Becky Jansky, noting the Board begins the meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance, asked
why the Board did not also say a prayer.
Claudia Campese said she supports the Board doing a forensic audit.
Julius Rothlein, NHC GOP, asked whether voters will be required to wear masks to enter
polling places. Director Hunter-Havens said precinct officials will be required to wear
masks, but voters are requested but not required to wear masks under the current mask
mandate. Mr. Rothlein asked whether observers will be allowed to review the absentee-
by-mail return envelopes before they are accepted or tabulated, and when will that occur.
Director Hunter-Havens confirmed with the State Board legal team that absentee-by-mail
return envelopes are not public records while they contain a ballot, becoming public
records only after the envelopes are opened and ballots removed. She so notified NHC
GOP chair Knecht this afternoon. The applications approved to date will be opened and
scanned at the October 19 meeting and she will set up a time to review the redacted
container-return envelopes after that as timely as she can accommodate it.
Matthew Morrissey offered information about a forensic audit process.
Virtual attendee Jeanette Koshar, American Association of University Women, expressed
her concerns about the cost of and challenges in the process to obtain voter identification
should it be required in future elections.
Elizabeth Richards asked about observers and mask requirements for voters and election
workers. She demanded answers about when and how the mask mandate will be lifted.
Chair Carter excused her from the meeting.
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Matthew Emborsky endorsed conducting a forensic audit of the 2020 election.
Claudia Campese asked whether a non-municipal resident can serve as an observer in the
municipal election and why can an Unaffiliated voter vote in a primary election. Member
Bryan advised that the State party makes that decision.
Seeing and hearing no other public attendees wishing to comment, Chair Carter closed
the Public Comment session.
GENERAL DISCUSSION
Chair Carter opened the General Discussion time for Board members and called on
Director Hunter-Havens for her report.
She reported that the three One Stop early voting sites are set up for opening Thursday
morning. Deputy Director Dawkins successfully contacted the two officials for H10 and
W27, as discussed last meeting, and is awaiting confirmations of their willingness to
continue serving.
Member Bryan asked whether staff had encountered any difficulties with staffing three
One Stop sites. The Director said the sites are staffed but, as with election Day officials,
the situation remains dynamic with daily changes. She maintains a pool of emergency
officials to draw on as openings occur.
Chair Carter distributed a copy of NCGS §163-182.17, Summary of officials’ duties
under Article 15A, Counting Ballots, Canvassing Votes, and Certifying Results in
Precinct and County, to the Board and commended it for their review. He asked, looking
ahead to final canvass, what issues might arise. The Director noted election protests,
requests for recounts, and voter challenges may arise. During the pre-canvass meeting,
the Board will oversee the hand-eye sample counts, part of the election audit process,
review supplemental absentee-by-mail applications, and review provisional ballots. The
pre-canvass meeting is scheduled for November 8, the day before canvass on November
9.
NEW BUSINESS
a. Review of Absentee Ballot Applications
Director Hunter-Havens presented 7 absentee-by-mail ballot applications for Board
review and approval or disapproval: 4 civilian with all requirements completed, 1
military, and 2 overseas absentee ballot applications meeting UOCAVA requirements for
Board approval or disapproval, in accordance with NCGS §§163-229 (b) and 163-230.1
(e) (2020). For the civilian ballots, two have voter and two witness signatures, and two
were signed by the voter and notarized. The military and overseas ballots have the
required attestation attached to the container-envelope. A bipartisan duplication team is
standing by to duplicate the military and overseas ballots which were submitted
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electronically. The Director passed the container-envelopes to the Board to review while
protecting confidential information.
Member Kemp moved approval of the 7 absentee ballot applications, in accordance with
NCGS §§163-229 (b) and 163-230.1 (e) (2020), second by Secretary Miller. Motion
carried unanimously. Board members signed the Absentee Meeting Ballot Certifications
for the ballots approved today and for the two overseas absentee ballots approved on
October 5.
Chair Carter reviewed the statute, NCGS §163-34, Power of county board of elections to
maintain order. He advised that the Board will not tolerate disruptions of its meetings.
He moved to bar the person who disrupted this meeting from the next meeting on
October 19, second by Member Hunter. Member Kemp asked if there is anything she
might do to attend the next Board meeting. Chair Carter said that she could return to the
October 26 meeting if she addresses election-related matters and refrains from addressing
the mask policy. Secretary Miller agrees this person was out of order and disruptive in
addressing matters not germane to the Board’s agenda, but he is more inclined to allow
her to attend the next meeting if she is informed of the potential consequences of such
behavior. Member Hunter said her behavior is inexcusable and, with her child being
present, she was concerned with her unpredictable behavior. As Board members,
residents, and taxpayers, no one should be subjected to that kind of behavior. Sheriff’s
deputies will be present going forward. Member Bryan said that she may be barred from
attending in person but would still have access through the live stream of the meeting.
He has difficulty with banning her from a meeting. Hearing no further discussion, the
Chair called for the vote on the motion. Chair Carter and Member Hunter voted aye;
Secretary Miller, Members Bryan and Kemp voted no. Motion failed for lack of a
majority.
Secretary Miller moved that the Board request on-going law enforcement presence at
their meetings, at least through the final canvass, second by Member Hunter. Motion
carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
Member Kemp moved that the meeting be adjourned at 6:14 p.m., second by Member
Hunter. Motion carried unanimously.
The next Board meeting is scheduled to be held on October 19, 2021, at 5:00 p.m. in the
Board of Elections office, Long Leaf Room, 1241A Military Cutoff Road, Wilmington,
NC.
APPROVED BY: RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED BY:
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DERRICK R. MILLER RAE HUNTER-HAVENS
SECRETARY ELECTIONS DIRECTOR