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First Name Liz
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BOC Meeting (July 22) - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment As homeowners in Ocean Forest Lakes, my husband and I
support the proposed development at 6634 Carolina Beach
Road, with the understanding that it will meet a critical need for
more housing opportunities for the residents of New Hanover
County. While I'm sure most if not all of our fellow OFL
residents that you will hear from are opposed to the project, we
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don't believe in the widespread sentiment across our
community that bemoans all development and disregards the
many thousands of households who struggle every day with
the rising cost of housing. We don't buy into the "I got mine"
attitude that leaves no room for others to also enjoy the quality
of life that we have, to live near the beach and the river, to be
able to walk your child to school. We appreciate that this
development works to close the gap in needed rental units for
our community, and is located on CB Road instead of River
Road, providing a wider birth from our river and wetlands than
other development in our area that we have not supported. We
are excited to know that our neighbors, including members of
our local workforce, young families, and seniors, will have a
housing option that meets their needs in this new project if
approved, and we are disappointed that more of our
neighborhood's residents don't see the value in offering others
the stability and opportunity that only a home can provide.
Thank you for your consideration and for doing the challenging,
often thankless work of balancing the many needs of our
community with the many wants of its residents.
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Farrell, Robert
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Commissioner’s, This email is to oppose the , Palm Grove Apartments, proposed at , 6634 Carolina
Beach Raod.
It was stated by Cindee Wolf that no traffic study was needed because this project would produce less
than 100 trips per day. Could we please get some clarification on this from the WNPO and or the planning
department? Cindee is looking to add 64 units to this area. Simple math tells us that if there are only 50
units traveling once per day in and out of this development then we have 100 trips per day. With 64 units
being proposed at this time we are well above the hundred trip per day mark And this project should not
be approved without an updated road study. Why is a traffic study not required? The last traffic study was
done over the winter during Covid. We request that the DOT require an updated road study prior to any
rezoning consideration of this plot.
Turning lane: The safety risks the turning lane creates can not be overstated and you may hear more on
this later, but I wanted to make a few specific points. First, there is not another turning lane like this
anywhere in our area and I challenge anyone to find one. At the last meeting, the WNPO stated that there
is a turn lane like this one around college and New Center, Drive. This is absolutely incorrect. The speed
limit in that area is 45 mph. There are five lanes of traffic ,there are six stoplights slowing the traffic, and
all of the deceleration lanes are a lot longer. Our acceleration and deceleration lane is in a 55 mph zone
that does not have a traffic light on one end or the other to mitigate the flow or speed of traffic. Nobody
has mentioned the north to south U turn lane that will be right at the beginning of the turning lane,
creating even more of a hazard.
We were told the DOT recommended this turning lane. I have never heard or been aware of the DOT
participating in a concept plan/drawing by a developer. We have a right to either see this
recommendation in writing or, at a minimum, it is provided to the commissioners prior to any approval.
The DOT is already way too busy trying to maintain the roads we currently have along with their own
expansion projects. And we all know they are behind on those projects.
The Planning board said they couldn’t fix new Hanover county’s traffic problems when they made their
recommendation. We are not asking them or anyone else right now to fix them. We are asking that, not
only do you not add to our current problems, but not add such a dangerous option. There are options this
board could take to not make this such a dangerous area for our community and those traveling the
highway. One is to not allow rezoning and have so many cars entering and exiting the highway from this
particular location. Second, another U-turn going, westbound from this plot of land , needs to be added .
Diversity of housing: It was mentioned last year that the county needed a diversity of housing. First and
foremost, diversity of housing does not equate to affordability of housing. In the last several years, a
diversity of housing has been created in new Hanover county. Literally thousand of apartments, condos,
townhomes and single family homes, both small and large. In our immediate area alone we have
multiple developments going on. Just 1 mile north at 5322 Carolina beach road, 165 apartments and 35
townhomes are approved with another 62 townhomes proposed next to it. A half mile to the south two at
the intersection of CB rd and Myrtle grove, two more developments were approved. Along with those, we
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have the developments on river road. Just two miles away there are low maintenance, single story homes
at “The Haven” currently being built, along with the 274 apartments that are near completion across the
street from them. Between our neighborhood and Carolina beach there are at least a dozen other large
tracks of land up for sale that will most likely be developed. And we haven’t even mentioned the 200+
long term rentals being built in CB.
Cindee had mentioned at the planning board that it is not feasible to build single family developments
along main corridors. This is simply not true. Less than a quarter mile to the south of us , Cypress
village, was just recently built. Adam’s landing on CB road was built in the past couple years. There are
currently two developments actively being built right on CB road at the intersection of sanders and CB
and in monkey junction.
This development that Cindee Wolf is proposing is only for profit by someone living in the state of New
York. They do not understand our area , the plot of land they are trying to develop, and how it affects our
area that funnels down to Carolina Beach and all the issues that this creates . Especially, with
emergency evacuation situations. This development is not what is right for this property. Please say no to
rezoning. Please get a new traffic study.
Lastly, according to Wilmington apartment association states that vacant rates for apartments have
been up 13%. That’s quite a large number of vacancies considering the amount at apartments we
currently have and the hundreds of apartments approved in by this board in 2023-2024 . Even the
regional economist at UNCW, Mouhcine Guettabi, states that vacant rates in our are up.
Please Please Please do not allow the rezoning of this property and have the DOT perform a new road
study of our area. .
SAY No To Rezoning
Sincerely ,
Jess Anderson
Woodlake Board Of Directors
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First Name Beth
Last Name Burgin
Address 821 Glenarthur Drive
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BOC Meeting (July 22) - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment Respectfully submitting my comments in opposition to the
rezoning proposal for 64 apartments at 6634 Carolina Beach
Road.
As anyone in public health can attest, and we can probably all
agree, easy access to multi-use paths and nature is essential for
vibrant, livable communities. Walkability is crucial for physical
health and mental well-being, as this study highlights:
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.93.9.1546
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Part of our traffic problem is, suburbia has made many of us car-
dependent, even in small counties like New Hanover. While there
have been great steps in the right direction in some areas, much
work remains (and financing for that work.) Isolating multifam ily
residential complexes away from commercial centers, transit and
jobs is not the best direction to go. Adding another 100+ cars and
people living along Carolina Beach Road will exacerbate the
worst aspects of suburbia and traffic. I detest cars for social
reasons, as discussed in the above study, but of course I also
see the need. Cindy Wolf argued that our stance against the
proposed 64 units, due to car dependency, was disingenuous
because we also need cars. Well, are we looking to quadruple
our traffic problems? No. We need true mixed-use developments
interconnected with our neighborhoods.
Even if/when a multi-use path were built here (which is at best
15-20 years away), this location would have no appeal for me as
a renter, along this high speed busy corridor. However, it’s ideal
for a true mixed-use complex that attracts people already living
nearby, reducing traffic elsewhere in the county—a win-win
situation. This 64-unit multi-family housing complex is a lose-lose.
High-density multifamily structures should be closer to
designated growth nodes outlined in the Comprehensive Plan—
near transit, jobs, amenities, and commerce centers. We can
avoid adding more cars if we plan correctly now. Leave this area
as R-15 or something less dense. If it must be residential,
consider ownership options instead of rentals. Regarding housing
diversity, how about the missing middle: quads, duplexes,
townhomes, and tiny houses? These are transitional housing
options and are underrepresented in this part of the county.
No one is saying don’t build, they’re saying don’t build high
density. No one bought homes in the surrounding neighborhoods
expecting one day to live beside a multi-family housing complex,
since it’s zoned R-15. We expect our elected leaders to prevent
developers from running roughshod over what’s in the long-term
best interest of our entire community. Vote it down. As Cindi Wolf
said, “No one wants to live on Carolina Beach Road.”
Sincerely,
Beth Burgin
Glenarthur Drive
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BOC Meeting (July 22) - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment This additional housing will create more traffic issues as well as
decrease the value of our homes.
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BOC Meeting (July 22) - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment This additional housing will cause more traffic problems &
decrease the values of our homes
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BOC Meeting (July 22) - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment I bought my house last year as a first time home owner. I was
so excited to get away from apartment complex living and I
wanted to be in a suburb neighborhood. Hearing that the
residential lot next door is trying to become a multi unit lot for
another apartment complex in New Hanover was devastating.
They argue there is no apartment complex in southern New
Hanover but River Lights is filled with new apartments, and
even Carolina Beach has a new apartment complex going in.
We do not need more, and we wanted and expected peace
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when we bought in this neighborhood. I know a lot of people
have also expressed concern about the influx of traffic as our
exit and entrance lane will also be linked to their exit and
entrance lane. I feel that it will cause more accidents and traffic
(the police already stopp traffic for the 2 churches next door
and across the street). I strongly oppose the want to turn the lot
into a multi unit apartment complex because we all bought with
the expectation of a suburban neighborhood where we can be
away from the noise and crowds of an apartment.
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BOC Meeting (July 22) - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment This is a terrible idea for this area - way too much congestion
would be created - stick with the ruling where this project was
already shot down last year.
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BOC Meeting (July 22) - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment These apartments that have been proposed will cause more
dangers than just traffic.
1- the safety of school age kids waiting on a bus Carolina
Beach Rd. ( a 55mph zoned area) .
2- leaving Glen Author right now is often difficult to get on to
Carolina Beach Rd. With an additional 20 ( or so feet ) for
acceleration/ deceleration is not enough room for entering 2
different neighborhoods. The current turning lane already block
the view of anyone leaving Glen Author when someone is in
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the turning lane. With 64 additional homes that will mean
getting out will be even more risky as cars will be jockeying to
get out on to Carolina Beach Rd. Within 50-100 feet of each
other while traffic can be heavy in this area.
3- with 64 additional homes this could mean about 100-120
additional cars leaving and entering this area.
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Public Comment z28-04 Palm Grove Apartments. I am in strong opposition
because of the following reasons: Traffic-Carolina Beach Road
is already at or beyond design capacity. Hurricane evacuation
will be an extreme challenge. Daily traffic will become
dangerous with the proposed Weaving Pattern. Flood Control-
The area will be essentially clear-cut, and storm runoff will flood
the Lord's Creek neighborhood in the event of a Hurricane.
Lack of Infrastructure-There are no sidewalks nor bus system.
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School systems are already overloaded. This development will
only add to the overcrowding.
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BOC Meeting (July 22) - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment Oppose Z24-08 - too congested for more apartments!
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BOC Meeting (July 22) - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment Please reject this rezoning. The density of housing is too high
and the location is too far from the Mixed Use Growth Hub at
Monkey Junction and Carolina Beach Rd. If we are committed
to decreasing our dependence on only one mode of travel, the
car, then you would not approve this project. If we are
committed to diversity of housing then why are we only building
apartments? The apartment market is already over saturated,
so more apartments is not the answer. Some of the apartments
in the immediate area around this location are more affordable
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than the HUD high home limit 2024. there is a downward trend
in the monthly rental rates due to too many apartments for the
level of demand. What is needed is affordable housing for
purchase. Newcomers to NHC and young families want more
housing options. The Bowen report indicates the deficits in the
future will be more for purchase than housing for lease.
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BOC Meeting (July 22) - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment In the recent planning board meeting regarding the Palm
Groves Rezoning request, board members acknowledge that
this project will further aggravate the current traffic congestion
problems and make the area around the development less
safe. While the board acknowledges the concerns of the
citizens regarding the decrease in the quality of life for the
existing community residents, they believe developer should be
rewarded for doing it’s best to mitigate concerns.
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Mr. Avery noted that congestion in Greenville, NC and Los
Angeles has become untenable and Wilmington is getting to
that point, but he said we should not stop development just
because of congestion. We just have to deal with it. Why
should we continue to add to existing problems without a
solution?
Mr. Tarrant also said congestion is problematic, but we don’t
know how or have the ability to solve the problem and just have
to deal with it. In order to find solutions, we need to continue to
add people and create more issues in order to get services to
reduce the congestion problem. Again, why are we going to
add to a problem we know exists instead of devising solutions
first?
Mr. James of the WMPO acknowledged that the proposed
deceleration and acceleration lanes requires drivers to adhere
to the principles necessary to execute the weave maneuver
used in the this form of traffic control. He also stated that
before drivers attempt the maneuver, they should make sure
the area is clear of traffic and new drivers should make sure it
is extra clear. This indicates the we are purposely putting in a
traffic control that is less than safe. Why are we purposely
making New Hanover roads less safe? While this form of
control has been put in place elsewhere, it does not mean it
should be used.
Mr. Matthews suggested the apartment residents will not cut
through the Lords Creek, Woodlake and Ocean Forest to use
River Road. Anyone who has tried to exit Lords Creek during
high volume times and then maneuver across Carolina Beach
Rd to do a U-urn, knows that using River Rd to get to Cathay,
Sanders, Independence and Shipyard is much more efficient
than battling Carolina Beach Rd Traffic. Cutting through will
also increase the stress on the Woodlake and Ocean Forest
roads that area privately funded.
We should not aggravate existing problems without proactive
solutions just for the sake of development.
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First Name Gina
Last Name Drost
Address 6650 Carolina Beach Rd.
City Wilmington
State NC
Zip Code 28412
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Public Comment I am writing on behalf of the approximately 1,100 registered
households of Immaculate Conception Catholic Church,
located at 6650 Carolina Beach Road, to express our
opposition to Rezoning Request Z24-08. This request proposes
to rezone approximately 4.65 acres at 6634 Carolina Beach
Road from R-15, Residential, to (CZD) RMF-M, Residential
Multi-Family - Moderate Density, to allow for a 64-unit multi-
family development.
Our community has serious concerns regarding the rapid
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expansion and its potential negative impacts on our area. The
ongoing rezoning requests in this region raise significant issues
related to resource management, infrastructure, and
environmental preservation.
Specifically, we would like to highlight the following concerns:
1. Resource Strain: The area is already experiencing low water
pressure, congested roads, and significant tree loss. Further
development without adequate infrastructure planning will
exacerbate these problems, leading to reduced quality of life
for current residents.
2. Environmental Impact: Our community believes in the
responsibility to preserve and nurture our environment. The
proposed development threatens the natural habitats that draw
tourists and residents alike. The loss of trees and green spaces
to large concrete structures will diminish the beauty and appeal
of our area, potentially reducing tourism revenue.
3. Infrastructure Overload: Our schools and roads are already
overcrowded. Additional multi-family units will increase the
burden on these systems, leading to further congestion and
reduced accessibility, particularly to the beach, which is a
major attraction for tourists and residents.
4. Previous Rezoning Denial: We have noted that this property
was previously denied rezoning, and not much has changed in
the planning and development of this project to warrant
reconsideration. The same issues that led to the initial denial
remain unaddressed.
5. Traffic Safety: Our community heavily invests in traffic
control measures to ensure the safety of our members when
exiting our property each weekend and during special events.
Increased traffic from new developments will exacerbate safety
concerns and make it more challenging to manage traffic flow
effectively.
In conclusion, we urge the Board of Commissioners to consider
the long-term impact of such developments on our community.
We believe that the current proposal is not in the best interest
of our area and respectfully request that you vote against the
recommendation to rezone.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Gina Drost On behalf of the Immaculate Conception Catholic
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First Name Linda
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Public Comment This proposal was denied last year.
Nothing has changed that would make this choice to go
forward. All the concerns were legitimate and proof was given
to the council.
This plan does not fit with all the residential homes in the area.
Please do not let this pass.
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Public Comment It is already difficult to exit the neighborhood, especially durning
peak traffic hours/days but trying to leave on a Saturday or
Sunday during peak beach season is sometimes near
impossible. Also, the Catholic Church already has backups
past Lords Creek at times with police directing traffic. Final
example is when the church (before the entry) has their free
food or sweet potatoes, it’s like frogger making sure you don’t
hit anyone. They extend all the way to the entrance from the
church to Lords Creek on CB rd. In conclusion, the thought of
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another WHOLE development of people leaving the same
direction is terrifying. Trying to gain entry and exit to our
neighborhood will not only a nuisance but a huge safety
concern. Plus, it will continue to make our peaceful end of town
way more commercialized. Many of us here enjoy the nature
and being surround by trees and not feeling like we are in
midtown. So please allow us what we sought out and paid for…
our land without people building on top of us.
Thank you!
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First Name Dorothy
Last Name Fender
Address 821 GLENARTHUR DR
City WILMINGTON
State NC
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Public Comment Respectfully submitting my opposition to this project, once
again. I do hope this is not to be an annual event. Perhaps the
developers are hoping we'll all tire of opposing her and just give
in to the plan. We won't.
This is a dangerous place for medium high density multifamily.
You want to add some 100+ people smack up against one of
the busiest and fastest moving corridors in NHC. The
walkability of this location is ZERO. Absolutely no way anyone
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is walking along Carolina Beach Road, even if there was a
multi-use path. I can't comprehend how Planning Staff has
okayed this density in this location. Residents will be isolated
from everything they need on a daily basis, unless they drive.
The ingress/egress of this location is in direct conflict with the
800+/- homes of Lord's Creek, Woodlake and Ocean Forest
Lakes. I'd like to point out, the Planning staff map of the
location indicates a u-turn lane where there is none. See
attached.
I'd also like to know if the revisions of the Comprehensive Plan
have been considered by planning staff for this location/project.
It doesn't appear so, since it's just now on your agenda for the
residential infill portion. I've attached a screenshot for
consideration of why this rezoning should NOT be approved for
higher density; unless you have a car, one more added
expense for an apartment dweller, it is not located in close
proximity to commercial centers, public transit, schools or
public spaces and there are no planned roadway
improvements happening on this end of the county. Also, if this
is approved and of course something will be one day, please
consider a 20' untouched buffer space between uses. Parking
lots and this barren stretch of stormwater retention pond should
not be considered a visual buffer. Not when she's proposing 3
story units along the southern edge that abuts Lord's Creek
neighbors.
In one of the meetings, perhaps it was the Planning Board
meeting, Ms Wolf mentioned "creative grading" would be
needed for this location. I'd be curious what that means.
Considering this is located at the top of Lord's Creek, and there
is an actual creek and it drains into wetlands which as we
know, protect us from storm surge. Al this impervious surface
and removal of trees is very concerning. I'm sure it's been
mentioned elsewhere but we had tremendous flooding issues
in this area with Florence and that wasn't considered a "100
year storm" was it? The storms. They will come. Let's hope we
all remember how to behave ourselves and help our neighbors.
That might be a little harder to do that when it's multifamily
housing. I didn't buy this property, which abuts this rezoning,
with any idea that it would EVER be higher density than R-15. I
understand the need for more housing, but let's make it
appropriate and in keeping with the surrounding areas.
I applaud the concept of adding a multi-use path to extend from
Sanders Road to Snow's Cut but realistically, unless NHC has
an angel donor swoop in, we won't see that for at least another
decade or two, if ever.
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This county has seen a bigger increase in over 65 population
than any other demographic. Do you really think this location
and this sort of complex is where we want to live? Ms. Wolf
said it herself; "No one wants to live on Carolina Beach Road."
She's right. Yet she and the owner persist in this rezoning; with
zero change from the last concept plan. You voted it down last
year. Please do that again. They haven't changed anything.
Might I suggest the owners rethink this project? Either leave it
R-15 or perhaps something truly mixed-use that contains its
own commercial appeal like shops, offices, child or elder care
facilities. Living spaces could occupy the upper levels. That
sounds like an ideal plan for this space, coming from someone
who's lived here off and on since the '70's and seen the
changes. Walkability is going to be more important going
forward, not less. I hope you consider that for the long-term
plan of our beautiful spot so we don't turn it into an unlivable
mish mash of mess along Carolina Beach Road. Please deny
this rezoning. There are much better places to situate multi-
family housing.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Dorothy Fender
Glenarthur Drive - Lord's Creek
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First Name Penny
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Public Comment This proposal is a bad idea for the area in which it is located. It
poses a safety risk for patrons of the church just to the north,
the residents of the proposed development, and the three
neighborhoods who use the exit lane to enter Glen Arthur road.
An already overcrowded, overdeveloped area with a 55 mph
speed limit with few stop signs, is an invitation to multiple
accidents. The proposed weaving or zippering entrance/exit
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Please act to protect the citizens and voters of New Hanover
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First Name Rachel
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Public Comment The close proximity to Lord's Creek will be problematic for both
developments for ingress and egress. The Southern part of the
county is growing at an uncontrolled pace. The infrastructure
can not handle the development, nor can the roadways handle
the increase in traffic. If there is an evacuation of Pleasure
Island, there will be no way for emergency responders to get
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Public Comment
OPPOSED
Public Comment (provided by myself at a prior meeting of NHC
Planning Board regarding this project:
In addition to the litany of traffic concerns, noise, light pollution,
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loss of greenspace, and architectural inconsistencies (with the
local community, i.e., Lords Creek) previously brought to the
attention of this Board, I wish to provide the following
observation:
-64 new units to be constructed will mean 64 children (more or
less) of various ages will reside here with no access to public
transportation
-the only pedestrian egress from this complex will be into
turning lanes of Carolina Beach Road (55 mph), OR
-trespassing onto private properties of Lords Creek
homeowners, or the two adjacent church properties, one of
which has a cemetery; this cemetery is not surveilled (I believe)
and represents a site for possible vandalism and/or desecration
of grave sites. The cemetery property also contains numerous
trees and brush representing a potential fire hazard from, for
example, carelessly-tossed cigarettes. The west end of the
cemetery is also bordered by private homes in Sago Bay.
As mentioned above and at prior reviews, this development is
very poorly conceived re: location, and demonstrates a total
lack of responsibility for residents of New Hanover County who
either live here now, or plan to reside in this proposed complex
in the future.
Thank you for your attention,
Timothy A. Meterko
809 Glenarthur Drive
Wilmington, NC 28412
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Public Comment Too much traffic, too many people in small area. We’re just
getting squeezed out
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First Name Valarie
Last Name Fowler
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Public Comment oh my gosh! Stop with the multi family and apartments. You are
destroying Wilmington. Not a freaking tree in site. What is
wrong with council? Can you not see the increased crime
rate?. The car and noise pollution? The overcrowded beaches
and parks? Build a dang school. For heavens sake. This is so
frustrating and disgusting. Just stop.
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First Name Ralph
Last Name Heid
Address 6602 Wedderburn Dr, Wilmington, NC 28412
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Public Comment This proposal would create an EXTREME HAZARDOUS
TRAFFIC SITUATION!!!!!!! SAFETY FIRST!!!!!!
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First Name janet
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Public Comment I have many reasons for being opposed to the new Apt.
complex development at 6634 CB Road. #1. Traffic Safety --It's
already difficult to pull out of the Lord's Creek neighborhood as
any vehicle in the southbound exit ramp from CB Road into this
neighborhood blocks the view and visibility of the right
southbound lane. Extending this ramp with proposed
development and possibly into the Lighthouse Church
entrance/exit area will further complicate an already hazardous
situation. Adding any speeding Tourist traffic will multiply this
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issue as well as added Emergency, garbage,delivery,school
buses,and city buses. #2 Project Density. This proposal
exceeds the definition of Community Mixed Use Dwelling units
per acre. #3 Changing the application to MINIMUM % of these
Gov't Subsidized will only allow developer to increase this
amount! These neighborhoods will self-destruct and destroy
other neighborhoods nearby as the NHC Planning Dept. has
admitted. #4 The agreement between NHC and the Property
owner regarding Work Force Housing provision does not
adequately provide Audit requirements to assure nearby
neighborhoods that the property owner will comply. #5 The
property owners are not Wilmington or North Carolina
residents. They have no concern how this proposal will affect
others and lower property values. #6 Previous flooding in that
area a few years ago created flooding issues for nearby
properties in the Lord's Creek neighborhood. I have concern
that these same homeowners would be at risk for flooding to
occur again creating further loss of property values.
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Public Comment Wilmington is already overcrowded especially in this part of
town. The schools on this end of the county are already
overflowing. It takes 5-7 minutes to get out of the entrance of
Lord’s Creek onto Carolina Beach Road already.
The River Road area and anything else south of Monkey
Junction can’t handle the amount of people already living here.
This is a bad idea.
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Public Comment Same proposal as last time! Until infrastructure can support
any new growth, I beg you to put a halt to any more
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BOC Meeting - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment This location is not suited for multi-family dwellings. It is a
single family dwelling location. There is zero walkability and no
mass transit. It is also fronted by a high traffic road. Residents
of the area do not need the additional traffic that multi-family
dwellings will bring. I strongly recommend a no vote.
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First Name Lisa
Last Name Burton
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Public Comment Our area does not need more traffic! Preserve our woodlands!
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First Name Shane
Last Name Stone
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BOC Meeting - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment Please do not approve this. If you do my entire neighborhood
know whom to sue when our children and pets are bitten by
displaced venomous animals, or when we need to have
extermination of vermin is necessary because we get
infestation due to the construction. As an ex-real estate agent I
know first hand that this always happens with developments.
In addition, please do not forget that the traffic is already a
nightmare along Carolina Beach road. There is not enough
room for any new developments, not in our schools, on the
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roads, stores, not anywhere.
You have already rejected proposals of this nature, please
continue to do so. Please don’t pass this. No one wants this.
Please make sure that this or any developer can request this
again. This is getting really annoying.
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First Name Riki
Last Name Cardona
Address 6715 Dorrington Drive
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Public Comment The traffic outside of our community is so heavy as it is. I
cannot imagine it worse and I feel the disturbance of the little
bit of trees and vegetation that we have will affect the area
during a heavy storm.
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First Name Breana
Last Name Hebert
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BOC Meeting - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment I oppose the rezoning request for 6634 Carolina Beach Road.
This area is already a high density location, with three major
neighborhoods all accessing one entrance through Lord’s
Creek right where the rezoning request is located. Also,
Biggers Market, Seaview Seafood Company, Lighthouse
Shining Ministeries, Hanks Chapel AME Church, and Mikes
Mulch & Stone are all located right here which is just south of
Veterans Park and north of the entrance to Lords Creek. An
addition of multi-family homes on less than 5acres of swamp
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induced land will be detrimental to the citizens of New Hanover
County please oppose this request.
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First Name Susan
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BOC Meeting - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment This development is horribly planned. The traffic getting in and
out of Lords Creek is already horrendous. The Lighthouse
Shining Ministries often has events with cars parked all along
this area. Adding more traffic with no roadway improvements is
going to result in even more accidents at this location.
The entire lot is low and wet. Regardless of the stormwater
measure they are proposing, it is going to cause flooding to
adjacent properties. This area holds a ton of water during storm
events. Lords Creek runs right through it. We do not have the
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infrastructure in place to support more development. It’s just a
horrible idea.
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BOC Meeting - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment I oppose the building of these apartments in the described
area. For the following reasons. There is no infrastructure IE
sidewalks transportation, stop lights. density of traffic in this
area. The impact of the church to the north of it on Thursdays
will be felt. They support the community. I'm concern of the
crime that is developing in our area as well. It's super hard to
get out of Lords Creek as it is. And to have turn offs into this
apartment complex and ours will be an accident waiting to
happen. It's pretty bad to have traffic cut through our
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neighborhood to get to River road. The amount of development
in New Hanover County alone is unbelievable. Is it really
necessary to add 64 more apartments to the many that is being
done now. I hope there is come common sense to push this
development back to see what has been approved already.
Don't want to hear about getting living area for those working in
Carolina Beach. As I have driven to Shallote and Sunset Beach
for work. That's one and half hours to one hour both ways. It's a
sorry lame excuse.
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First Name Cheryl
Last Name Hannah
Address 7642 VANCOUVER CT
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BOC Meeting - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment Multifamily housing at the intersection of Carolina Beach Road
and Glenarthur Dr is not in the best interest of the established
community or residents of a proposed community. There is no
transit provider along this section of CB Rd.for residents who
do not have a vehicle and businesses are not within walking
distance. Additionally, the current configuration of the right turn
lane onto Glenarthur Dr will be compromised with vehicles
entering and exiting this lane. Too much traffic is already on CB
Rd to accomplish safe right turns out of Glenarthur.
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First Name Tess
Last Name Robinson
Address 709 Glenarthur Drive
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BOC Meeting - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment I vehemently oppose this unnecessary and DANGEROUS
project proposed by the land owner who does not even live in
Wilmington and will not have to deal with the after effects.
Traffic and safety are the main concern. The road which these
apartments may be built on is incredibly busy — getting busier
by the year — and frequently sees car wrecks of varying
degrees. There are no side walks or safe bike paths for renters,
so they will all be reliant on cars. There is no option for a stop
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light to be built along with the apartments either, so there are
zero life-saving measures that come with this project’s
completion. With drivers often exceeding the 55mph speed
limit, there WILL be wreck-related fatalities if these apartments
are built — I am sure of it. With many people taking the
absolutely necessary U-turns to get back to Lords Creek, and
residents trying to pull into the neighborhood as someone
speeds out of their apartment complex, this is a recipe for
disaster. I don’t think I’m being hyperbolic when I say there are
children’s lives at risk. With the THREE schools operating in
Veterans Park, this is another added traffic concern, especially
for new drivers. Not to mention that the EIGHT beautiful
churches surrounding this area (all within spitting distance from
the Lords Creek entrance) will suffer greatly due to the
increased traffic. It will deter people from attending services
and potentially add to the chaos on a day that should be spent
worshipping — not worrying.
Plus, there are already ample options for apartment living in
this area, including Veterans Park complexes,
townhomes/apartments all up and down River Road, and those
currently being built a short distance away by the Publix on
Carolina Beach. These are all incredibly close to these
proposed complexes; so there is no unmet need in this area as
the land owner suggests. Additionally, the land is swampy and
marshy, meaning there will be continual issues with the
property that will likely deter renters and cause other major
issues. This is simply a bad project to invest in from a financial
perspective.
From a personal perspective, I believe I speak for everyone in
Lords Creek and the close by neighborhoods when I say that I
purchased my home in Lords Creek because it’s quiet, safe,
and tucked away. It is my haven and the place I go for peace. I
don’t say this lightly: If these apartments are built, it will drive
out residents and cause a major (negative) shift in the dynamic
of this area. All in all, I cannot stress enough how deeply
unsettling it is to see someone like the land owner who has
very little regard for the people already living here — but again,
he will not have to deal with the negative consequences of his
project. We will. He will sit back comfortably and profit off the
chaos and potential deaths of his real estate venture.
This is an incredibly unsustainable project with more issues
associated than solutions. This is about greed. Truly, I hope
everyone on the board sees how unsafe, unnecessary, and
unsatisfying this project would truly be for Wilmington, Carolina
beach, and the residents of Lords Creek (many who have lived
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here since the neighborhoods creation). I have faith the board
will make the right decision (as they did last year!) and vote
against this project which will be a failure both short-term and
long-term. Greed is not a good enough reason. We as a
community need to take care of one another, not invest in the
livelihood of a NYC resident with little concern for the area or
its people. We already have traffic issues and there are already
ample apartment options in this part of town. The ones who will
truly suffer are the home-owning, tax-paying residents who will
inevitably feel as though their needs and perspectives are not
valued in Wilmington.
I have faith the board will see the danger and detriment this
project will cause and vote NO to the Palm Grove apartments
as they did last year.
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First Name Michael
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BOC Meeting - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment Hi all. This project has previously been denied and now it is
back on the agenda with no changes made. Our roads in this
area are flooded with traffic. If this project is approved, the
residents would use our roads to take their children to the
schools and to access River Rd. which is also saturated. The
roads in the adjoining neighborhoods are private and we
maintain them. The additional cars in the area would destroy
our roads which we cannot afford to repair. We do not even
have sidewalks on all roads and as we walk our dogs we
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dodge enough traffic barreling through a residential
neighborhood. The deceleration lane entering Lord’s Creek
would be used as a turn in for this project and multiple traffic
accidents will occur. Coming off of Carolina Beach rd is hard
enough there. The size of the structure does not fit in with our
area. Please deny this request again for the adjoining
neighborhoods. Thank you.
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Name Roberta Shelingoski
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Subject Zoning Changes for High Density Housing
Your Message Please vote NO to the proposed zoning change for the property
adjacent to Lord's Creek Development on Carolina Beach
Road. The change from 68 units previously denied makes no
difference! NO MORE SPRAWL!
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BOC Meeting - Z24-08 - Palm Grove Apartments
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Public Comment Attached please find 168 signatures opposing this project. The
residents of Lord's Creek, Ocean Forest Lakes, and Woodlake
neighborhoods oppose this rezoning proposal.
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