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Fear River's water, do we use on average per day? What percent of the Lock and Dam No. 1, is it 10% of
the water that comes over that dam? Is it 20 %? Believe it or not, they actually measured the average
cubic feet of water per second that goes over that dam. It's measured by CORMP, Coastal Ocean
Research Monitoring Program, now monitored by UNGW. This is the average, based over the last 40
years of data, 40,000 gallons per second flow over Lock and Dam No. 1. Do the math, times the number
of minutes, times the number of hours, that's over 3 % billion gallons per day. 3 %x billion gallons per
day. Worst case, if you guys might correct me, I think worst case during the summer, our demand may
be 23 million gallons. With some simple math, and we have some engineers on staff, um, at 23 million
gallons of demand maximum demand, we're using .66% of the water flowing over that dam. Now, keep
in mind, I'm not an engineer, 1 don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of staff. This is just
me doing these calculations. Keep in mind, too, this usage is if we got everything we use from this dam,
which we don't. We draw some of our water out of the ground, so if we subtract the water we get out
of the ground from the 23 million gallons, this would be even less. And again, also, I know this doesn't
take into account droughts, this is average, but if you took this number rather than (unintelligible word)
5400 cubic feet per second, if you took that down to 1,000 cubic feet per second, much less, we're
getting into drought stages, it's still only about 3 % percent at this state, again, not taking into account
the water we draw out of here. Just an interesting topic I thought you guys might (unintelligible word).
But, again, just to show, we're not sucking the river dry, um, and the amount of water we use is actually
very, very little.
Um, conclusions. We're not running out of water. Conservation can be encouraged without a tiered
rate structure. We cannot conserve our way out of the need to expand facilities. Even at peak demand,
we use a very small percentage of the water that is available to us. And I say that, I know, that is not, we
have to have the ability to process this water. Just because it is here doesn't mean we can process it. 1,
again, I've only got four minutes, so I can't say but so much. And, finally, conservation is no excuse for a
tiered rate scheme that discriminates against families. Uh, the solution is to change back to a uniform
block rate and end discrimination against families in New Hanover County and meet conservation as
well as the budgetary goals. Does anyone?
Renzaglia: Does anyone have any questions? Let me ask you...
O'Shields: Yes, sir.
Renzaglia: Just a couple of things here. Uh, would you agree that, if we got rid of tiered rates that...
O'Shields: I would not come back. (Comment met by laughter from people in room.)
Renzaglia: Would you agree that, if we got rid of tiered rates, that the price per unit would have to go
up on the low end?
O'Shields: Yes, sir.
Renzaglia: Would you agree with the fact that, if we got rid of tiered rates, that 85% of our customer
base would see higher cost per unit?
O'Shields: No, I'd say 100 %. Everybody pays $1.95, so everybody's base is going to go, so 100% of the
customers are going to pay, but they're all going to be treated equally. They're not...
Renzaglia: Okay. Would you agree that, in your own opening comments, you stated that the issues you
were hearing from others was the high cost of water, the high cost of sewer, that people are upset
because they have high water and sewer bills?
O'Shields: llm.
Renzaglia: That was your opening comment.
O'Shields: You're right.
Renzaglia: You don't have to agree to that then.
O'Shields: No. No. I agree that, yes, people are complaining because of the cost of their water, yes.
Water and sewer. They're complaining about water and sewer.
Renzaglia: I would surmise and would present to you that there would be greater comments and
more upset customers if we got rid of tiered rates by going to a common rate, because, as you have just
stated that 100% of the customer bills would go up.
O'Shields: I agree 100 %. When that happens, it would be, but what's right is right. That does not
excuse us as of, as stewards of the public.....doing what's right.
Renzaglia: I'm not looking for an excuse, l just wanted to make sure I understood that what you
were trying to do was to raise everybody's water and sewer.
O'Shields: No. No. That's a good spin, Gene. That's a good. That's the best you've done yet.
Renzaglia: Thank you.
O'Shields: No, what I'm trying to do, Gene, is make sure families are not discriminated against.
Renzaglia: I understand.
O'Shields: I understand that your, this is your golden calf and I will stick it to you every time 1 am up
here, but what's discrimination is discrimination, and treating customers fairly should be a priority, and
that's (unintelligible word).
Renzaglia: Okay, thank you sir.
Transcribed by Donna S. Pope, Clerk to CFPUA
12/21/2009